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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back to truth seekers tonight we

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are uh

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going to continue our coverage some of

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you know that we have covered the bob

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lazar story

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uh for quite some time

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uh of course from a skeptical

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perspective because you know there's so

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many problems with the story

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and we've outlined many of them here but

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i was happy to find another researcher

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and individual by the name of louis

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kaitano who runs the website ufology is

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corrupt

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and and it's an interesting

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very very interesting

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website blog and now he's begun to make

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videos breaking down some of his

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research efforts and i have to say that

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uh i'm happy to see that somebody put

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so many he's got a blog called litany of

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bob lazar's lies and it breaks down all

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of this stuff

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that bob lazar has lied about

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half truths and all of these different

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things and it it's it's to me it's much

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more impactful when you see it all in

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black and white

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it's one thing to hear

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okay bob lazar lied about this on an

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audio podcast or a video show but to see

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it all in black and white written out

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piece by piece

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he makes a very compelling case

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for the fact that bob lazar shouldn't be

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trusted as a trustworthy

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witness to so-called

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flying saucers that the government is

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trying to back engineer i've been

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following his blog for some time we've

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wanted to get him on here tonight is the

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night we finally get to do that

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uh so let's welcome him in here welcome

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mr kaitano glad that you finally made it

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yeah so i i wanted to begin by the the

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website ufology is corrupt now this is

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something that i've been thinking for a

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long time that ufology is corrupt

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i i tended for a long time to focus on

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the dark side of this thing

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what what led you to pick that for a

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website address and do you think that

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you all of this is corrupt or most of it

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i think most of it is um sincere

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directing this thing

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if that's the right word

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there's a big corrupt element there and

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there's also a lot of self-delusion

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stuff like that so that's i guess why i

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off air about how some of these people

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sort of a religion to them and they

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a lot of this ufo mythology is what i

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how some of these you know there's all

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of these stories they can't all be true

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whereas his story is that he worked

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why why the intense i don't know in my

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the back of some science magazine this

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bob lazar uh you know excerpts from the

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government bible where he explained how

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the craft work and what you know how he

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article about um lazar and that's the

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first time i think that i encountered

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aliens came from zeta reticuli so i'll

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because john leah really had worked at

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he was apparently flying

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um missions over the

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area to collect air samples because they

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so he was part of that but he could have

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record interview i have a copy of it

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back to him that he had already spilled

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and it basically was already it was

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basically the lazar story before lazar

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and then in 1988 the tv special ufo

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cover up live

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which had a ton of stuff

288
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yeah i remember the strawberry aliens

289
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like strawberry ice cream

290
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yeah

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right

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but a bunch of other stuff as well

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including the name area 51 was mentioned

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and um

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what's his name richard dodie was posing

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as falcon

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yeah with the voice disguiser and and

298
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and yeah the whole thing about that it's

299
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it was silly yeah and then lazar copied

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that when he came out as dennis i guess

301
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he figured that ufo whistleblowers have

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to appear in silhouette

303
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yeah well usually with the voice

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disguiser too yeah but eventually he he

305
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uh dropped the masquerade

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which

307
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may not have been a good idea because

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then people could actually look into his

309
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real background and recently we

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so we know that his education is

311
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completely and totally made up nonsense

312
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and you know one of the things that

313
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bothers me about the true believers is

314
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they do all these mental gymnastics to

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explain why he can't prove that he has

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these master's degrees you know the

317
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government erased his records but

318
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michael stratt pointed out correctly so

319
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that in order for the government to do

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that they'd have to crawl into every

321
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dusty attic every garage steal every

322
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single person's yearbook from both those

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schools

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you know sanitize them and and any race

325
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bob zazar or any mention of him and then

326
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put them all back

327
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right you know without anyone noticing

328
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it makes no sense it's just his

329
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education is fake that's just it and

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more recently we get the revelation now

331
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that he lied about ever being a

332
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scientist at los alamos so those are two

333
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huge foundational parts of his story

334
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that have just fallen apart and i don't

335
00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:15,120
know where george knapp and

336
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jeremy corbell are on commenting on

337
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those things after all those guys have

338
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made the most money off this story

339
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shouldn't they have to you know explain

340
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why now the story is falling apart after

341
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the big money grabs of the movie in the

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book

343
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exactly

344
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and can i just say hi to amy collins who

345
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has um

346
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yeah she sent me she sent me the same

347
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thing and i didn't get to use it i get

348
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sidetracked here uh this

349
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you did a breakdown of the badge being

350
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fake that he yeah and she gave me the

351
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information for that

352
00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:49,519
yes i'm talking about about the nevada

353
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test site and the badges they were using

354
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and also how william cooper um ties into

355
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the story

356
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yeah and i'm i'm referencing here uh

357
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another website uh this is bob this is

358
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michael schratz side by side comparison

359
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of the

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beam ship of billy meyer and the bob

361
00:16:12,629 --> 00:16:10,800
lazar so-called sport model i mean it's

362
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almost exact slightly different shape

363
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but same windows same you know

364
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undercarriage

365
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and it's it's the same thing

366
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so and yeah shout out to amy collins who

367
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,000
sent me some of that information as well

368
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:26,079
that pretty much proves that the so

369
00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:29,279
we've got a fake education a guy

370
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claiming to be a scientist when he was

371
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:33,680
an electronics technician at los alamos

372
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and the the the

373
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a lot of the stuff that he put forward

374
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:42,000
as proof of his claims like like a badge

375
00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:43,759
are completely and totally

376
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garbage and bunk

377
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and that is w2

378
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you know really weird showboating

379
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behavior

380
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like um if you see some of the

381
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documentaries and i provide links to

382
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this on my lazar page

383
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um

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he was driving around in the 90s with

385
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mj12 license plates on his corvette

386
00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:05,520
yeah even though like he was meant to be

387
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under threat by the government like he

388
00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:09,520
was afraid that they'd assassinate him

389
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or something

390
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:13,679
yeah

391
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,760
he's somehow still he's somehow still

392
00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,400
putting mj 12 right that's way to keep a

393
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:20,880
low profile right yeah i have seen those

394
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,640
pictures of this corvette

395
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:24,720
by the way i have the same corvette just

396
00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:26,640
about

397
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:28,640
it's interesting yeah

398
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:31,200
that's the real sport model by the way

399
00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:32,480
the corvette

400
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:34,720
yeah yeah well you know one of the

401
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:37,280
things that is interesting about lazar

402
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:39,600
is that he he's obviously is a very

403
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,799
intelligent self-taught science nerd you

404
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:45,520
know he's building hydrogen-powered cars

405
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,240
and strapping rockets into cars and

406
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:50,720
bicycles and things like that

407
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:53,120
but you know a self-taught

408
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:55,440
science nerd that's just geeky and into

409
00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:57,919
science stuff is not the same thing as a

410
00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:00,160
real scientist and it always drives me

411
00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:02,320
nuts when articles reference him and

412
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,120
they say former government scientist

413
00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:07,280
because there's no proof he ever worked

414
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,160
for the government or ever worked for

415
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,640
or was ever a scientist

416
00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,120
well you know the the thing about his

417
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:17,360
story like really funny contradiction is

418
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:18,240
that

419
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:22,559
maverick scientist

420
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:25,760
and he he implies that that's why they

421
00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:28,080
got him for the reverse engineering job

422
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:29,919
but then in some of his interviews he

423
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,760
says that the technology should be in

424
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:33,679
the hands of the scientific community

425
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,160
instead of people like him who are just

426
00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:38,400
like he just called himself a guy in one

427
00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:40,080
of those interviews

428
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:41,919
yeah i'm just a guy why do i have all

429
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:44,320
this information that's so important

430
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:45,760
and yeah here we see some of your

431
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:47,919
articles the origins of

432
00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:50,960
lazar's s4 security id badge and the

433
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,160
roles of john lear and bill cooper

434
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,880
yeah this is interesting and this is

435
00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:59,039
again from amy collins

436
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:00,880
you give such a great breakdown of all

437
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:03,440
this stuff too uh and amy collins

438
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,880
contributes

439
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,960
where maybe bob lazar got some of the

440
00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,200
ideas for his fake

441
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:11,200
madge security badge

442
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:14,559
by the way i showed that badge to

443
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:16,240
bob lazar's

444
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:18,160
uh badge to

445
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:20,960
four people that i can verify actually

446
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,160
worked at area 51 and all of them said i

447
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,320
i've never seen anything like that that

448
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,559
that has nothing to do and and two of

449
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:30,880
them worked at this

450
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:34,320
area 51 at the time bob lazar claimed to

451
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:36,320
using this so-called

452
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:38,640
security badge

453
00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:41,200
so you know and also i don't know

454
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:43,039
whether i trust him or not

455
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,480
but um richard doty looked at his and

456
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:48,880
and also told me no that that's not

457
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,240
right and then richard doty sent me his

458
00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:54,400
real area 51

459
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:56,880
security badges like he sent me a a

460
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,200
picture of a few of them that he had

461
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:01,280
from over the years working there

462
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,320
they

463
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,480
this badge has nothing to do with area

464
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:06,159
51 it's a it's a complete total

465
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:08,960
fabrication right

466
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,679
exactly and also it says madge on it as

467
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:13,120
if

468
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,120
you know would advertise its existence

469
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,760
on security badges

470
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:19,440
yeah that doesn't make any sense but it

471
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:22,799
sure fits uh the the ufo mythology story

472
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,840
right

473
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,159
yeah trying to kind of insinuate these

474
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:27,760
stories into his own

475
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:29,039
and then yeah

476
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,200
it's like an emotional hook he tells

477
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,520
people i this this stuff is correct you

478
00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:35,919
believed it right all the time

479
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,360
and um also sort of stoking up the

480
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,600
distrusting the government which of

481
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,520
course like we should distrust the

482
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,120
government to a large extent but the way

483
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,200
he does it is to

484
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,960
basically say that all the conspiracy

485
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:51,600
theories are right and that

486
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,720
you know

487
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,159
encourages people to give themselves a

488
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,039
pat on the back by believing nonsense

489
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,600
yeah and and again it comes into oh you

490
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,000
know you know that majestic 12 you heard

491
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,320
about i'm gonna confirm for you that

492
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,840
that's a real thing

493
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,240
because it's on my security badge and

494
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:11,039
and the briefings mentioned majestic

495
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,760
and you know uh all of these other

496
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,840
things that like the zeta reticuli thing

497
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,000
oh you heard that aliens came from zeta

498
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,240
reticuli right i'm gonna confirm that

499
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,320
for you with my story

500
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,760
it's it's it's

501
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,840
it's a typical tactic that many of these

502
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,159
people use like i said they

503
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:31,120
they gotta uh mix in accepted stuff and

504
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,760
then add to it with their own

505
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,679
with their own bits right

506
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:36,880
right

507
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,320
there's also lazar also recounts the um

508
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:42,880
basically the dulce bass story the story

509
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,200
about the altercation between the aliens

510
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:47,440
and the security personnel

511
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:48,799
and he also

512
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,190
so yeah

513
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:55,679
borrowing from the benewits um

514
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,039
mythos

515
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,840
yeah so it seems like he he mixed up

516
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,840
let's see billy meyer betty and barney

517
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,960
hill

518
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:03,840
uh

519
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:07,679
majestic 12 documents some stuff from um

520
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:08,960
ufo

521
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,880
live that

522
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,280
show with dodie

523
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,360
interesting that it's just a mix of

524
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,039
already accepted stuff i suppose the

525
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,520
only thing he added is hey i worked at

526
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,919
area 51 and they they have alien

527
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,600
spacecraft and i worked on back

528
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,039
engineering them

529
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,039
which is again something that people

530
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,440
long believed was taking place but we

531
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:31,200
didn't have

532
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,240
that much

533
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:34,720
lens strength field and a few others had

534
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,720
done stuff on crash retrievals saying

535
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,840
that they were back engineering but it

536
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:41,679
wasn't it wasn't so he brought it to the

537
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:44,799
forefront right that this idea

538
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,760
right there was actually a 1980 tv

539
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,080
special a part of a series called in

540
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:51,600
search of

541
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,440
one of the one of the um

542
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,200
see one of the episodes in that year was

543
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,679
about ufos and there was somebody in

544
00:23:02,549 --> 00:22:59,440
silhouette again

545
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,559
calling himself fritz who

546
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:04,240
he claims that it was taken out into the

547
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:05,440
desert and that he'd worked at the

548
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,039
nevada test site

549
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,200
and he was in charge of um

550
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:12,240
he was compartmentalized to work on the

551
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,080
propulsion system or the power system

552
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,640
and yeah i think lazar probably picked

553
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,320
that up or at least like it's so

554
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:22,640
reminiscent of the lazar story that

555
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,840
maybe there's some sort of like

556
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:26,000
archetypal

557
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,760
thing which people just gravitate

558
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:29,120
towards

559
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,480
you know if people are not directly

560
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,640
copying each other there has to be some

561
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,799
psychologically compelling

562
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:36,960
element going on where the same story

563
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,510
yeah i've

564
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,360
we've seen it and i've seen this pattern

565
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,960
like i said of these people taking

566
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,720
accepted things

567
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,279
adding to them and people still continue

568
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:51,200
to do it today you know how many stories

569
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:52,799
have we heard about

570
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:56,159
uh aliens in some antarctic base

571
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,760
because that's kind of accepted oh

572
00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:59,919
there's aliens right

573
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,400
yeah linda moulton house up to it again

574
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,440
as well with the aliens in antarctica

575
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,919
i don't know if you've read um

576
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,240
alan steinfeld's book called making

577
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,080
contact

578
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,320
no no i haven't yet but i just got done

579
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,880
reading the greys were framed which you

580
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,559
mentioned in your blog that's a great

581
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:20,320
book

582
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:23,840
always looking for new stuff

583
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,480
this one is absolutely hilarious so

584
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,400
i recommend you read it just for the

585
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:30,480
entertainment value but it's sort of the

586
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,039
quantum woo

587
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,640
inter-dimensional and it tries to link

588
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,720
everything to consciousness as well but

589
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,039
there's a chapter contributed by linda

590
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:41,840
molten howe in which she basically

591
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,559
admits that she believes in

592
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:47,520
nazi flying sources in antarctica

593
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,039
and um nordic aliens living underground

594
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,279
in a sort of truce with the

595
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:55,520
the evens and the reptilians and that

596
00:25:05,909 --> 00:24:57,279
they harvest

597
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:06,870
yeah

598
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:13,760
i think

599
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,320
believes anything that somebody tells

600
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,039
her about aliens any story that somebody

601
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,120
just tells her she yeah it's got to be

602
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:27,279
true and she runs with it

603
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:29,120
you know we've kind of we've kind of

604
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,640
detailed how she used a fake um

605
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:34,880
fake navy seal

606
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:37,039
while it was very popular for a while it

607
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,240
put a navy seal in your story after the

608
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:42,880
osama bin laden seal team six

609
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,159
popularized these uh mythical right

610
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,000
seals right

611
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,159
and yeah she runs with just about

612
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,000
anything so i'm sure yeah she would

613
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:54,480
believe that stuff

614
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:56,159
no i thought we could get into a little

615
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,120
bit about the element 115

616
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,720
yes because

617
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:01,840
people

618
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:09,120
predicting element 115

619
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,840
and the truth is i have a chemistry book

620
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,039
from 1976 i believe which predicts

621
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,120
element 115 will be discovered

622
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,559
eventually

623
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,720
and that's from 1976 but you've got it

624
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,559
even further you have a prediction from

625
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,720
1973

626
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:26,960
mentioning element 115

627
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,240
one from 1974 75 76 78 79 81

628
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,559
89

629
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,720
a scientific american article

630
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:38,559
which many people say where he may got

631
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:45,430
about the island of stability so the

632
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,200
fact that he predicted that element 115

633
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,679
is is shown as proof to some people that

634
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:53,120
he's telling the truth

635
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:54,400
what do you think about these claims

636
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,799
given that we have multiple mentions

637
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,279
and predictions of 115 before it and

638
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,880
also the fact that

639
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:03,120
the 115 he described it was sort of

640
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,880
magical material and this this element

641
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,240
115

642
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,720
has a half-life of a couple milliseconds

643
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:12,640
in a laboratory it's nothing like he

644
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,480
described right

645
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,840
right so

646
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,679
the ones that have been synthesized the

647
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:19,279
isotopes that have actually been

648
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:22,640
synthesized since 2003 they've all got

649
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,440
very short half-lives

650
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,679
and

651
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:29,840
you know as i've mentioned many people

652
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,480
were predicting it already

653
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,399
i think just a few weeks before

654
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,559
his interview with george knapp when he

655
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,559
appeared as dennis

656
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,799
um the scientific american article came

657
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:42,399
out

658
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,120
and that mentioned element 115 it also

659
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:48,000
mentioned element 114

660
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:49,200
which is

661
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,399
he also mentioned in a 1990 uh interview

662
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,399
with michael linderman

663
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,120
in a book called um

664
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,360
ufos and the alien presence and he

665
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,880
actually says in that interview that he

666
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,880
can't vouch for the fact that he was

667
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:05,039
dealing with 115 and that it might have

668
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,320
been 114 instead

669
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,880
yeah so how does he and the other issue

670
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,039
that i've always had is that he

671
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:15,440
claims that they

672
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,760
they didn't know what this fuel source

673
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,760
was when he got there and he figured it

674
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,520
out and they did it

675
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,440
yes absolutely ridiculous that

676
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,840
ridiculous that any scientist before him

677
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,600
wouldn't have put the thing

678
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:29,520
the material through the same tests he

679
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,640
claimed to

680
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,799
and and the other issue that i have is

681
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:35,679
the defenders of bob lazar say

682
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,720
well they're still uh working on

683
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,120
developing element 115 and there may be

684
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,880
a different isotopic ratio that will be

685
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,640
the material that will create the

686
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,120
material that bob lazar described but

687
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,200
bob lazar claimed that he put that

688
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,520
material through every

689
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,840
conceivable scientific test including a

690
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,760
mass spectrometer

691
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,159
and if that's truly the case he would

692
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,640
know the exact isotopic ratio of that

693
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:05,200
material right and therefore be able to

694
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,559
produce for us this magic element 115

695
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,640
that has all basically it works like

696
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,039
magic it creates any matter

697
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,960
and then there's a reaction that creates

698
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:17,279
a hundred percent energy and gravity at

699
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,799
the same time

700
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:20,880
well he says in the ninth he actually

701
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,279
says in the 1990 interview

702
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:25,200
from you can see that in my latest video

703
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,880
where i talk about this

704
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:28,399
that um

705
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,840
element 115 by itself on a table if you

706
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,679
fire a laser at it it'll deflect the

707
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,720
laser

708
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,640
like from the gravity

709
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,559
so he's basically saying that

710
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:41,440
just by itself element 115 has got these

711
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,559
incredible gravitational properties

712
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,760
and so like how would they even

713
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,600
manipulate that and then he says that

714
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,399
they machined it at lanl

715
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,240
um but then he also says that you can

716
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:54,000
indent it with your fingernail because

717
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,360
it's very soft

718
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,080
so why would you need to machine it

719
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,760
yeah that doesn't make any sense and the

720
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,440
other thing that it doesn't really make

721
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,799
any sense about

722
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,399
if it's if it's that high on the

723
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,320
periodic table it you wouldn't be able

724
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,240
to bend it or break it with your finger

725
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,080
i would think it would be it would be

726
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,640
denser than lead right

727
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,320
yeah yeah i think

728
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:16,559
he says that if you pick it up um you

729
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,360
can lift it and you can tell that it's

730
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,520
it's much heavier than lead

731
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,200
but then he also says that it's got

732
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,960
these incredible gravitational

733
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,720
properties so it's either one or the

734
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:31,669
yeah and and the fact that it would um

735
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,039
somehow reflect a laser beam

736
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,279
that doesn't make any sense to me but

737
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:38,880
you know again

738
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,360
it's it's it's a mythical

739
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,600
i think that his element 115 is a

740
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,919
mythical construct of science fiction

741
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,840
stories you know we've got to come up

742
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,159
with a way that we can make this thing

743
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:53,440
work right it's not running on petrol or

744
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:55,200
gasoline right

745
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:00,070
it has to be something kind of just

746
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,399
beyond the reach of current science

747
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,559
so element 115 had not yet been

748
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,360
synthesized but he was talking about how

749
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,600
he actually mentioned element 108 and

750
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:12,320
109 which had been synthesized at that

751
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:13,360
time

752
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:14,880
by the way those are also mentioned in

753
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,840
the scientific american

754
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:19,760
article sure yeah and i've saw alien

755
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,880
scientists here an alien scientist is

756
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:24,399
is a person that clued me into that

757
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:28,000
scientific american article in 1989 and

758
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,200
he believes

759
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:31,360
just just as we're discussing here that

760
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,480
bob lazar

761
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:34,640
being a science nerd he might have read

762
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,679
that and that's where he gets this idea

763
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,360
then i'm going to say that the craft

764
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:42,240
were made of of you know or powered by

765
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:43,039
this

766
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,080
mythical

767
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,240
element that doesn't yet actually exist

768
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,480
but soon will you know

769
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:49,919
yeah

770
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,720
and also interesting is that you know if

771
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:54,399
if

772
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,480
he should be able to reproduce it very

773
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,880
easily especially because he claims that

774
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,640
he has a uh

775
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:06,880
a particle accelerator in his backyard

776
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,440
or his bedroom or something right

777
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,519
he's actually able to recreate it

778
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:13,760
he says that the aliens probably did not

779
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,480
create it themselves

780
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,000
and that they probably got it from a

781
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,919
supernova remnant or from their own

782
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,840
solar system

783
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,440
um even though we don't find any

784
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,159
naturally occurring element 115 anywhere

785
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,399
in our solar system

786
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,480
but he says that probably the aliens did

787
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,960
not use particle accelerators to produce

788
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,000
it

789
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,200
but um

790
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,760
he he says that he also smuggled some

791
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,519
out from

792
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:42,000
s4 or from lanl or he sort of hints at

793
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:42,799
that

794
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,279
it was sent to him for further analysis

795
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:49,279
and george knapp has sort of gotten in

796
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,720
on that as well

797
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,200
yeah there's a famous talk that george

798
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,039
knapp gave i gotta find it again and

799
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,240
clip it out but george knapp said i know

800
00:33:02,470 --> 00:32:59,919
where bob lazar buried some of that

801
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,480
element 115 and maybe someday i'll dig

802
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,000
it up and

803
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:06,320
the fact that this guy is saying that is

804
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,799
so ridiculous because

805
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,799
you know this guy has been profiting

806
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:12,960
from this story for 30 years if he had

807
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,760
absolute

808
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,279
incontrovertible proof of all of bob

809
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,320
lazar's claims and that aliens had

810
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,480
visited planet earth somehow

811
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,640
and he knew where it was

812
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:26,159
what are the odds that he would just sit

813
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,720
back for 30 years and not

814
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,200
produce that that would be the biggest

815
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,760
story of humanity

816
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:36,080
exactly so i don't believe him i i don't

817
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,360
believe him

818
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,679
he's the one who said in the lazar tape

819
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,519
um which he sold with

820
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,000
gene hoff back in the day for 30 bucks

821
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,919
the one that you got as a kid

822
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:47,840
um he said

823
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,880
beginning of that very uh documentary

824
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,960
that he believes that the technology

825
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,480
should be in the hands of the scientific

826
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:55,919
community

827
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:58,000
and yet he's holding back on all this

828
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,760
stuff

829
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,159
all this knowledge supposedly

830
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,159
so it's sort of very strange that these

831
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,399
um disclosure people often are

832
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,079
celebrated for

833
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,960
supposedly sitting on evidence

834
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,960
yeah these are the guys that really want

835
00:34:16,510 --> 00:34:14,879
us to know the truth about the aliens

836
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:16,520
and even though they may have

837
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:18,480
incontrovertible proof

838
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,760
they're not going to produce that

839
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:21,280
they're just going to keep going with

840
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:22,240
you know

841
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,240
these stories and no evidence because

842
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,159
despite what everybody thinks the entire

843
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,879
story rests on just bob lazar story

844
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,800
there's no

845
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,639
george knapp likes to say well i talked

846
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:36,960
to people that worked with him and but

847
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,720
they're always anonymous sources and

848
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,560
just trust me dude

849
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,040
that's the that's the line of research

850
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,720
just trust me

851
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,480
i i talk to people that corroborate

852
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,560
parts of his story over the years

853
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:50,320
well let's why don't you let other

854
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,280
researchers talk to them you know

855
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,960
george knapp also

856
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:57,280
he actually acknowledged that um lazar

857
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,320
probably lied about his master's degrees

858
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,640
from caltech and mit so he he

859
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,480
acknowledges that lazar is a kind of

860
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,280
strange showboating guy

861
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,200
um but you know

862
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,040
by doing that he's basically shot

863
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,560
himself in the foot because he's

864
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,920
admitting that lazar is the sort of

865
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,079
person who would make up a story about

866
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:18,000
working on flying saucers

867
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,079
yeah i mean yeah if you're gonna see the

868
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,119
whole story begins with a lie to me

869
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:26,560
because his story starts i was an mit

870
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,200
caltech educated scientist

871
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,200
and i worked at los alamos as a

872
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,160
scientist and then i worked at area 51.

873
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:35,760
well the first

874
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,480
the opening part of the whole story is

875
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,320
been picked apart now to be completely

876
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,480
totally fake so if he's willing to lie

877
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,160
about those two things why would he not

878
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:47,040
be willing to lie about the rest of it

879
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,000
right

880
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,000
and then your blog goes into the hand

881
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,760
scanner which i had a big problem with

882
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,760
because jeremy corbell comes out with

883
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,680
this documentary and he claims there's

884
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,680
going to be all kinds of new evidence

885
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,359
proving that bob lazar's telling the

886
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,520
truth and you know we're taking the mic

887
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,680
back you guys you skeptics have had the

888
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,440
mic for 30 years now we're going to

889
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:07,200
prove bob's telling the truth and the

890
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,160
only

891
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,839
new information is

892
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,880
apparently bob lazar claimed that there

893
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,480
was a hand scanner at one of these

894
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:16,800
locations he worked and jeremy corbell

895
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,760
found

896
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,520
a similar thing

897
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,960
can you tell us more about the hand

898
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:22,640
scanner

899
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,119
you know it appeared in

900
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,119
uh close encounters and maybe that's

901
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,359
where he saw it first

902
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,839
yeah and somebody made a funny video

903
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,920
uh where corbell actually says the close

904
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,359
encounters is his favorite movie and

905
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,359
he's watched it countless times

906
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,839
but somehow jeremy corbell didn't catch

907
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,680
that that hand scanner was in his

908
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:45,200
favorite movie that he's watched

909
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,870
countless times

910
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,640
[Music]

911
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:51,599
but the hand scanner was also in um

912
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,800
early 1970s electronics catalogs

913
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:56,960
such as the one i mentioned there

914
00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:00,000
lazar may have seen that at some point

915
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,359
even though it was just a kid at that

916
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,359
point but maybe he was already like an

917
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,359
electronics enthusiast

918
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:06,839
or was interested in

919
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:09,920
electronics or um

920
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:12,880
actually this does kind of tie into

921
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,599
the nevada test site complex a little

922
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,000
bit because apparently the hand scanners

923
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,480
really were used at toner part test

924
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:21,520
range

925
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,920
in the 1980s

926
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,720
so

927
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:26,160
he may have gotten that from jim

928
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:28,880
tagliani who was his friend who was

929
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,510
yeah yeah and again we see that he's

930
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,760
he's compiling to me

931
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,839
if you step back and and and have some

932
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,839
perspective into the story

933
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,160
once once you do adequate research you

934
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,160
start to see that he is

935
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,800
he is cherry picking and this is my

936
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:50,640
opinion and speculation but bob is

937
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,440
cherry picking parts of his story all

938
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,400
around him you know and here we see this

939
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,240
hand scanner and another problem that i

940
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,960
have is that jeremy corbell just shows

941
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,240
him the picture

942
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,160
like is this the hand scanner and he's

943
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,400
like yeah like why didn't he show him 10

944
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:08,000
different hand scanners and make him

945
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,280
pick the one

946
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:11,599
that he worked at or or something you

947
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,320
know

948
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:13,440
other than just

949
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,200
let's confirm something you already said

950
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,520
because i found a picture of it you know

951
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,320
yes good point it is a strange and

952
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,920
interesting technology though because

953
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,560
apparently this hand scanner measures

954
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:27,440
the bones in your hand down to microns

955
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,079
or millimeters so that it can identify

956
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:32,800
exactly what person is accessing a

957
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,680
certain site by their hand

958
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,920
the young's very good they were not all

959
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:39,520
that reliable though and they were

960
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,079
eventually discontinued at tonopah

961
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,520
because they kept

962
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,839
they kept disallowing the workers who

963
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,280
were working on the

964
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,440
stealth fighters you know the skin the

965
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:52,000
stealth absorbent the radar absorbent

966
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,040
paint

967
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:54,960
um they were by the way they were called

968
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,680
martians because it's some acronym

969
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:59,359
but they weren't

970
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,640
for the um

971
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,280
the f-117 like the skin

972
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,920
and the the machines kept on denying

973
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:07,920
them entry so like they eventually

974
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,480
discontinued them

975
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:12,720
yeah i would think that retinal scanners

976
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:13,839
may

977
00:39:17,630 --> 00:39:16,240
uh better technology that would replace

978
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,640
this sort of

979
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,240
1970s you know

980
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,079
and and to me this hand scanner thing

981
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,640
being proof it's not proof of anything

982
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,960
it's it's he's saying that they used a

983
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,520
hand scanner oh well we we found that

984
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,119
they did use a hand scanner at some

985
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,040
government locations

986
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,200
that that's not proof to me i i don't

987
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:36,560
know

988
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,160
tagliani there's a

989
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,640
readily available source that he could

990
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:44,480
have gotten it from

991
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,200
and

992
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,920
tagliani may also have hinted at an s a

993
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,320
site four at tonopah because some old

994
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,880
maps of the facility they show at site

995
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,119
four so he may also have furnished lazar

996
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,760
with some upper some other operational

997
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:59,920
or logistical details

998
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,000
yeah and we see so we see so many

999
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,480
mentions of these hand scanners in old

1000
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,280
magazines newspaper articles

1001
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,040
that you know the fact that he knew

1002
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:11,200
about a hand scanner again to me it's

1003
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:12,079
just

1004
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:16,480
and and again the mr corbell saying

1005
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,680
we're going to have all this new

1006
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,440
evidence proven bob lazar's telling the

1007
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:21,520
truth and i guess the only new evidence

1008
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,800
he had was

1009
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:24,400
we found a picture of a hand scanner

1010
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:31,190
yeah

1011
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:31,920
so

1012
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,200
you you detailed a lot a lot more things

1013
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,720
on your site we talked about the

1014
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,359
references to zeta reticuli

1015
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,560
um

1016
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,560
the the explosion from cutting into the

1017
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,040
alien reactor story i i love that

1018
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,280
because that was copied from actual you

1019
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,040
detail this and i found this as well it

1020
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:50,800
was copied from actual

1021
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,000
incidents in 1945 and 1946 known as the

1022
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,160
demon core incidents can we talk about

1023
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:58,079
that for a bit

1024
00:41:03,349 --> 00:40:59,359
those were

1025
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,359
incidents where the technicians uh

1026
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:05,200
fumbled on something

1027
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:08,000
and it exposed them to radiation

1028
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:09,440
and um

1029
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,960
they did a

1030
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,880
reconstruction of that when they were

1031
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,119
reconstructing the incident

1032
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:16,800
to kind of come up with better safety

1033
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,280
protocols and it looked you know very

1034
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:20,880
similar to lazar's

1035
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,599
the alien core like all the the lid for

1036
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,359
it where you insert the

1037
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,280
element 115.

1038
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,440
but that was a well-known incident the

1039
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,839
demon core to anybody who's

1040
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,079
you know interested in nuclear physics

1041
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,240
or nuclear history

1042
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,240
yeah also

1043
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,920
the adamski um

1044
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,160
yeah this is another thing and you know

1045
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,000
uh solar marshall is here in the live

1046
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:46,880
chat and an alien scientist as well they

1047
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,599
actually found where damski got the

1048
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:51,680
parts to make this from it was actually

1049
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,400
from

1050
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,560
like a gas lantern

1051
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,119
you know like a oil lamp it was the top

1052
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,520
of an oil lamp that he then apparently

1053
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,520
glued extra bits onto but they got it

1054
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,440
down to like

1055
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,920
uh side by side comparison so adamski

1056
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:07,680
comes up with this

1057
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,800
uh

1058
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,680
as his you know these aliens that look

1059
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,680
like people that come from saturn which

1060
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,480
is impossible

1061
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,280
and they have these balls on the bottom

1062
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:22,319
kind of like bob lazar's reactor right

1063
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:23,200
yeah

1064
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,960
and in fact the there's an adamski

1065
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,160
connection

1066
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,800
in in another way as well which is that

1067
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:31,520
adamski probably inspired billy meyer

1068
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,000
who also constructed like fake you know

1069
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,760
dinner plate and

1070
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,440
uh trash can

1071
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,960
yeah

1072
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,720
christmas decorations and stuff like

1073
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,599
that

1074
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,599
and he also mentions like the nordic

1075
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:46,240
aliens like the plagiarisms

1076
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:47,280
um

1077
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,560
and obviously lazar copied the beam ship

1078
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,319
the type one beam ship

1079
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,599
as his sport model

1080
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,359
he also actually copied a bunch of other

1081
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:59,359
stuff from maya like maya was talking

1082
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,880
about how the

1083
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,960
the scout ships were sort of unstable at

1084
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,560
low speed because they were following

1085
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,640
the earth's gravity

1086
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,400
and lizards was a very similar thing

1087
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,920
that like the

1088
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:12,160
the the gravity of the the craft

1089
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,839
interacts with the gravity of the earth

1090
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,000
and that's why it sort of wobbles at low

1091
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,680
speed

1092
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,280
yeah and also

1093
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:22,240
i found a breakdown by billy meyer of

1094
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:24,560
how the craft his beam ship craft

1095
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:25,760
operate

1096
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,319
and again it's an anti-matter reactor

1097
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,720
that's what billy meyer said and that is

1098
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:33,280
what bob lazar said

1099
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:36,000
and also the electromagnetic aspect

1100
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,359
lazar says that electro

1101
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,079
electromagnetism and gravity are

1102
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:41,760
basically the same thing

1103
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:44,720
and meyer also said that

1104
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:47,839
yeah and and we talked earlier about how

1105
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,319
babazar supporters always say that his

1106
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,359
story never changes but in 2019 we got a

1107
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,960
new huge part

1108
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:56,960
i thought this was a huge new part of

1109
00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:59,920
the story babazar claimed suddenly he

1110
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,280
used to say

1111
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:03,280
he didn't know where the craft came from

1112
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,720
they didn't tell him

1113
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,400
he didn't know if they were captured

1114
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,119
recovered or given to humans

1115
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:10,880
that's what he used to say

1116
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:13,359
suddenly he's on the joe rogan show

1117
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,800
and he says

1118
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,440
that the spacecraft

1119
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,599
came from archaeological digs so can you

1120
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:22,319
tell us what you found about that

1121
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:25,119
so that's probably derived from

1122
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,240
ancient aliens lore

1123
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:29,920
and um

1124
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,309
well there's a bunch of stuff like it

1125
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:35,839
could have come from many places like

1126
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,319
there were movies in the 1960s

1127
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:40,240
yeah here i can i can read some of this

1128
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,440
i'm sorry i don't want to put you on the

1129
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,920
spot you've got perfect uh

1130
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,599
perfect here

1131
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,920
uh you say uh

1132
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,240
likely it came from ancient astronaut

1133
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,119
ideas of eric van dynegan's thoroughly

1134
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,760
discredited 1968 book chariots of the

1135
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,359
gods which was also made into a

1136
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,599
documentary which was put forth the

1137
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,680
ancient astronauts hypothesis for

1138
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,920
extraterrestrial visitation during

1139
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:05,920
antiquity and the work of zachariah

1140
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:07,040
sitchin

1141
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,920
um another ancient astronaut's proponent

1142
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,079
it could even be drawn from 1987 novel

1143
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,400
by stephen king titled the tommyknockers

1144
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:17,280
or the well-known 1982 sci-fi film the

1145
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,400
thing

1146
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,079
but both these stories deal with alien

1147
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,160
intelligences that have been unearthed

1148
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,560
and re-animated by people stumbling upon

1149
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,400
them the thing even has a scene in which

1150
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,960
there's an alien flying saucer that was

1151
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,119
excavated from the ice and is reputed to

1152
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:32,720
have been buried for over a hundred

1153
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,280
thousand years

1154
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,280
so there again we have him sort of

1155
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,440
taking ideas perhaps from popular

1156
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,440
culture and weaving it into his story

1157
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,920
and hey this is a new part of the story

1158
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:45,680
before i always said i didn't know where

1159
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:47,200
they got the craft now i'm going to tell

1160
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,240
you

1161
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:50,240
uh that they came from an archaeological

1162
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,880
dig that's a big flip in the story or

1163
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,839
change in his story

1164
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:57,520
there's also no evidence that anybody

1165
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,119
ever dug up a craft like there's no none

1166
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,640
of the people who are doing the digging

1167
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,960
or any of the archaeologists have ever

1168
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,119
come forward

1169
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,960
right to talk yeah and that's always a

1170
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:10,480
problem that i've had with some of these

1171
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,800
stories in that

1172
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,960
somebody taking part in an event like

1173
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:15,839
that

1174
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:19,760
person would keep their mouth shut about

1175
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,400
the greatest discovery in human history

1176
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,440
right

1177
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,200
zero

1178
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,480
exactly

1179
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,800
you know that old saying there's only if

1180
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,480
two people know a secret there's only

1181
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,400
one way to keep it and that's to kill

1182
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,000
one you know

1183
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,400
that it just doesn't it doesn't make any

1184
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,160
sense to me and another thing that never

1185
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,480
made any sense to me is that nobody

1186
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,800
he said there was 22 people or something

1187
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:45,520
at area s4

1188
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,720
they're the only people that had the

1189
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,040
clearance to to work on the spacecraft

1190
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,119
so that that means there's 21 people out

1191
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,000
there that for 30 years have kept 100

1192
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,000
percent of the secrets the only one to

1193
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,560
spill the beans was bob lazar

1194
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:00,800
i don't find that to be a credible

1195
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:03,280
i i would think that after he came out

1196
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:05,200
other people would come out and say yeah

1197
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,240
i saw it too if it was a true story

1198
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:10,400
especially if his uh

1199
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,800
if he credits the cash landrum incident

1200
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,640
from 1980 as an actual

1201
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,720
government-operated ufo

1202
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,400
that would take a huge industrial

1203
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:20,000
infrastructure to build something like

1204
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:21,280
that

1205
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:22,400
and you know if you're already

1206
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,440
manipulating gravity

1207
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:27,839
um like how does he think that that was

1208
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:30,480
done if they didn't already know

1209
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,280
intricate details about the

1210
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,440
sport model or other ufos that they'd

1211
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:36,480
captured

1212
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,160
including the element that it was

1213
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,000
running from

1214
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:42,400
yeah and and your blog also details this

1215
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,480
point that i always like to hammer and

1216
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,640
that is lazarus claimed that soviet

1217
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,640
scientists were invited to take part in

1218
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,200
the reverse engineering program now

1219
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,720
there's a few reasons that i have a

1220
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:54,800
problem with this and that is first of

1221
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,640
all if this is 1987 to 1989 or whatever

1222
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,400
in that time frame

1223
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:02,400
this would be the height the absolute

1224
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,880
height of the cold war

1225
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,680
and

1226
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:08,079
at the at that same time the united

1227
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:09,520
states was developing all of this

1228
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,640
stealth technology at area 51.

1229
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,400
you know i asked a bunch of people that

1230
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,040
i'm sure worked at area 51 would they

1231
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:19,680
let soviet scientists anywhere near area

1232
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:22,880
51 and they all laughed and said no way

1233
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:25,839
on god's green earth would they let even

1234
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:28,559
somebody with ties to the soviet union

1235
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:31,680
or family in the soviet they were hyper

1236
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,240
paranoid about security and keeping

1237
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:35,760
whatever it is that they're working on

1238
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,079
at area 51 completely and totally secret

1239
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,319
from their greatest adversary so the

1240
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,480
fact that bob just flippantly says yeah

1241
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,720
that we had these soviet scientists here

1242
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,240
working with us but then they got

1243
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,200
ejected somehow it doesn't make any

1244
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:51,200
sense whatsoever right

1245
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:53,680
it's also kind of insulting to the

1246
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,319
people who actually work there

1247
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:58,160
yeah

1248
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,400
people are expected to believe that it's

1249
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,880
the most top-secret government facility

1250
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,400
in the united states

1251
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,800
and we're going to let scientists from

1252
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,960
our greatest adversary work with us on a

1253
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,440
project involving

1254
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,400
the the greatest technology we've ever

1255
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,480
discovered right

1256
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,000
right

1257
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,480
but i guess lazar is also simultaneously

1258
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,559
saying that the government

1259
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,119
didn't really care about this super

1260
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,800
advanced technology because they only

1261
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,440
assigned 22 people to it

1262
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,599
which itself doesn't make them

1263
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:35,599
that makes no there's more than 22

1264
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,640
people working on like the tires on an

1265
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,720
aircraft that they're developing do you

1266
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,720
know what i mean like that's what that

1267
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,559
was described to me by

1268
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:47,200
an aerospace engineer who for sure

1269
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,400
worked uh on some of secret projects

1270
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:52,480
there and he told me there'd be more

1271
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,599
than 22 people working on just something

1272
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:57,760
stupid like the tires or the nuts and

1273
00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:00,079
the bolts or the rivets of an aircraft

1274
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,599
we're developing

1275
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:03,359
so the fact that this is supposed to be

1276
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:04,160
the

1277
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:09,440
we're going to back engineer it but

1278
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,079
we're only going to put 22 people on it

1279
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,200
that doesn't make any sense

1280
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,520
now i heard you give some mention to

1281
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:18,960
this recent

1282
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,839
um we we got in this big argument over

1283
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:23,760
this uh person that

1284
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,319
decided that they discovered s4 because

1285
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,559
we first let's talk about there's been

1286
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,880
right there's been recent flyovers

1287
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,640
allowed of papoose lake that show

1288
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,960
there's absolutely nothing there

1289
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,839
right but

1290
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,760
someone found

1291
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:40,559
a site that was supposedly labeled s4

1292
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:43,119
research facility not far from where bob

1293
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,480
said it was but nowhere near really and

1294
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,559
to some people like third phase of moon

1295
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,359
and and others um this is completely and

1296
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,200
totally

1297
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,119
you know proof that bob lazar was

1298
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,520
telling the truth there is an s4 there

1299
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,839
but we did these experiments where we

1300
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,200
could label

1301
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,520
anything anything we want even with a

1302
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,000
government pin but those guys wouldn't

1303
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,200
accept that they kept arguing with us

1304
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,119
what do you think of this person that

1305
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,720
claimed that and by the way that person

1306
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,559
was very problematic due to a criminal

1307
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,559
past and drug history and

1308
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,119
all kinds of uh i would say ethical and

1309
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:21,200
moral problems that indicate you

1310
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,839
shouldn't believe anything he says

1311
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:25,440
you know he

1312
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:28,079
he posted it a year before on a reddit

1313
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,119
site

1314
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:31,520
then a year later he makes a big video

1315
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,040
about it like it's this new big

1316
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,640
discovery

1317
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,200
what did you think of this s4 fiasco

1318
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,200
that just happened

1319
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,790
well

1320
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,640
yeah my understanding is that you can

1321
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,720
put you can label basically anything on

1322
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,920
google maps

1323
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,440
whatever you want

1324
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,680
like um

1325
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,760
and there's also some like s4s which are

1326
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:56,160
nowhere near papua's lake or papua's

1327
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,359
mountain

1328
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,760
and um

1329
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,599
what's the other one

1330
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,599
even if there is a facility like it

1331
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,520
still has to match lazar's description

1332
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,400
of s4 because yeah it didn't matter it

1333
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:09,440
did not

1334
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,950
yeah so

1335
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,880
i mean it's it's possible that there are

1336
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:18,400
although there were

1337
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,920
um

1338
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,599
some facilities on the mountain because

1339
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:24,240
they were testing like the f-117 as it

1340
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,359
flew over towards area 51

1341
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:29,520
to like test how stealthy it was so

1342
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:30,640
maybe they

1343
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,240
there are some like derelict um

1344
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:36,559
radar installations or things like that

1345
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,839
but just because

1346
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,280
something's on a mountain doesn't mean

1347
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:41,920
that that's what lazar says it was

1348
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:44,559
yeah and and here

1349
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:47,839
here we see this and and uh some of our

1350
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:49,920
people i believe it's still labeled

1351
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,640
third phase of moon mdl

1352
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,640
with a government pin

1353
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,880
so these guys said you can't it says

1354
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,040
government office right here

1355
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:01,839
third phase of moon mdl we relabeled

1356
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,319
that site third phase of moon mdl with a

1357
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,680
government pin

1358
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,200
but for some reason i don't remember the

1359
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:08,960
specifics they're still claiming no

1360
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:11,359
you're wrong the pin should be green not

1361
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,200
gray or it's you know some nonsense but

1362
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,200
it's labeled with a government pin third

1363
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,520
phase of moon mdl

1364
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:21,680
and the the other thing that we found is

1365
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,920
that we could measure the distances and

1366
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:25,920
this person said here's where the hangar

1367
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,240
bay doors were but they would be 12 or

1368
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,200
10 feet wide not 40 feet wide as bob

1369
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,920
lazar mentioned he also said he came out

1370
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,000
right onto the papua's lake bed the

1371
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,480
papoose link is pretty pretty far from

1372
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:41,040
this location we can see

1373
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,880
it's way down over here you know

1374
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,640
there were nine flying sources so like

1375
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,640
it's 40 times nine

1376
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:49,920
it should be

1377
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,520
yeah exactly not 40 ti you know not 9

1378
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,079
times 10 you know and this person they

1379
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,160
did all these mental gymnastics to kind

1380
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,079
of uh try to explain

1381
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:02,880
why this was the s4 they drew on hangar

1382
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:05,359
bay doors that weren't there over here i

1383
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,480
think

1384
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,079
and then we did a measurement and said

1385
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,000
no that can't be because then the doors

1386
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:11,920
would be 10 foot wide how you getting at

1387
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,359
52 foot diameter oh that's another thing

1388
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,359
another little minutiae of bob lazar is

1389
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:18,800
that he originally said the hangar bay

1390
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:21,040
doors were 40 foot wide

1391
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,839
and

1392
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:23,920
later on larry king he said that crafts

1393
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,040
were 52 feet wide yeah so you can't get

1394
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,280
a 52 foot anything out of a 40-foot

1395
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,200
hangar bay door this is one of the

1396
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,040
little stupid mistakes that he's made

1397
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:35,200
along the way

1398
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,799
but i think that this

1399
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,119
whole story of hey we found s4 is

1400
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,799
completely and totally

1401
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,000
garbage

1402
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,000
and it didn't help we had richard dodie

1403
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:46,079
on as a surprise guest and richard dodie

1404
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,440
started saying yeah that's where they

1405
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:49,359
keep the aliens in this underground

1406
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:53,119
facility and i was like oh no

1407
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,559
you know richard dodie just made the

1408
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,640
whole thing worse because

1409
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,559
yeah

1410
00:55:02,950 --> 00:54:59,920
he said that's where they keep the

1411
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,960
aliens right in here it goes underground

1412
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,720
and i don't know what these two things

1413
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,040
are supposed to be but yeah he said that

1414
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:09,119
they were keeping the aliens there when

1415
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:10,640
he worked there so that just made the

1416
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,040
whole situation worse because then third

1417
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,880
phase and other people said see richard

1418
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:16,559
doty says that's where they keep the

1419
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:20,319
aliens maybe bob azar was right

1420
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:21,760
and away we go

1421
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,079
richard dodi is the greatest comedian i

1422
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,760
think ever

1423
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,680
you know i think he's an interesting guy

1424
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,839
though in that you can verify that both

1425
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,839
his uncle and his father had some

1426
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,200
involvement with the united states

1427
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,000
government ufo programs before him

1428
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,160
so that's a couple generations

1429
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,920
and two other people in his family that

1430
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:42,079
have been involved in it and he

1431
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:42,880
he

1432
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,520
landrum was

1433
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,680
um a nuclear-powered

1434
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,280
it was a recovered craft they couldn't

1435
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,040
figure out how to power it so they

1436
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:01,040
dropped the nuclear reactor in it

1437
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,040
because it needed massive power

1438
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,520
and bob lazar may have taken from

1439
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:07,440
that from him and and

1440
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,400
mj 12 is reputed to have come from him

1441
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:13,119
so much of ufo mythology

1442
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,559
comes from him

1443
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,400
yep

1444
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:18,319
it could be like an artist

1445
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,190
admiring his own work

1446
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:25,440
he's doing it for the sake of

1447
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,160
seeing how far people will believe it

1448
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:30,720
yeah yeah or how

1449
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:31,520
or

1450
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,119
documents and then he releases it and

1451
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,280
just sits back and kind of laughs at his

1452
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:43,680
creation and how many people believe

1453
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,400
this fiction that he wrote which is

1454
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,640
it's almost like fan fiction but i will

1455
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,640
say people credit him with the mj 12

1456
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:51,920
documents

1457
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,480
if if he was truly behind that i think

1458
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,720
he would need a team working with him or

1459
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,319
something because there's too many

1460
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,200
details in there including you know like

1461
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:03,200
the word for plastic was different when

1462
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,559
these documents were supposedly

1463
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,559
generated and that's right and all these

1464
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:08,720
tiny details in those documents are

1465
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:11,520
historically right which is weird

1466
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:14,960
but yeah he made it worse but as far as

1467
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:17,839
this s4 location it does not match

1468
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,400
anything that bob lazar said babazar

1469
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,160
said he came right out into the test bed

1470
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,720
once the hangar bay doors open to view a

1471
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:27,280
test there's no papoose lake here

1472
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:30,319
so i think that is just a case of uh

1473
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,589
i'm seeing the comment there richard

1474
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,680
dodie didn't have google earth back then

1475
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,079
though

1476
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,640
point is that he just um

1477
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,359
opportunistically just um uses anything

1478
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:46,880
new to

1479
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,680
retroactively validate his story about

1480
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:51,680
aliens

1481
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,720
yeah yeah

1482
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,960
yeah and and and i don't know par like i

1483
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,240
said part of me thinks that richard

1484
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,480
dodie likes to stir the pot right you

1485
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,640
know like you know i didn't know what he

1486
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:04,400
was gonna say but he happened to be here

1487
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,400
and i asked him because you know i

1488
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:08,480
wanted to see what he would say he went

1489
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,390
jan aldrick is asking what relative of

1490
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,160
dodie worked for the government both his

1491
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:20,240
father and his uncle and they both had

1492
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:22,960
some involvement in the ufo file

1493
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,200
one in blue book and one somewhere else

1494
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,599
uh as i recall

1495
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,440
so we get further in

1496
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,760
we talked about s4 i'm trying to cover

1497
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:33,599
you cover so much on your blog and it's

1498
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:36,240
so data rich that it's hard to uh it's

1499
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:38,160
hard to to pick and

1500
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,520
choose like

1501
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:42,160
so we've talked about s4

1502
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:43,760
first of all uh

1503
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,640
i i guess i should ask you too like

1504
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:48,720
have you read the book that bob lazar

1505
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,349
i'm gonna do that very soon

1506
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:55,760
yeah it's on my list as well but we have

1507
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,720
john lear came out and said that's not

1508
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,480
um

1509
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,920
he doesn't believe john lear doesn't

1510
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:04,079
believe it was written by bob lazar he

1511
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,520
believes it was written by a ghost

1512
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,680
writer maybe because too many of the

1513
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:09,280
details were wrong

1514
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:10,319
you know

1515
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,160
which is interesting because

1516
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,400
john lear was a witness to most of this

1517
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,640
stuff right

1518
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,559
yeah he was right in the thick of it

1519
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,400
although maybe naively

1520
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:21,920
probably

1521
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,040
john lee was you know it's sort of um

1522
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,480
one of those people who has got a very

1523
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,280
active imagination and believes a lot of

1524
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,680
stuff without much evidence and i think

1525
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,680
probably lazar just kind of exploited

1526
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,599
that i think it was lazar doing the

1527
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:37,280
exploiting rather than

1528
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,960
leah

1529
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:40,480
yeah

1530
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:45,680
also that the government would hire

1531
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,680
somebody that they knew was friends with

1532
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,760
somebody that's on a tv show every week

1533
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,319
talking about ufos to come and work on

1534
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,720
flying saucer ufos right

1535
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:56,720
but would not be wouldn't wouldn't you

1536
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:58,480
think that the guy in charge of the

1537
01:00:04,630 --> 00:59:59,680
security

1538
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,640
he's going to talk well

1539
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,559
george knapp has got an uh sort of

1540
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:09,040
convenient escape from that which is to

1541
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,240
say that

1542
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:12,400
the government hired him and they knew

1543
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,000
that they could just discredit him if he

1544
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,319
ever spilled the beans because then they

1545
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:18,000
could just point to his

1546
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:20,079
brothel involvement or whatever

1547
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,359
um

1548
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,680
other stuff from his past and then make

1549
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:26,160
him look like a liar

1550
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,760
so

1551
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:29,599
i mean you know in science that's called

1552
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,400
a unfalsifiable hypothesis

1553
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,799
yeah that can't be proven true or false

1554
01:00:38,589 --> 01:00:37,119
right right

1555
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:38,599
yeah i i like the concept of

1556
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:41,440
falsifiability i kind of apply it to a

1557
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,480
lot of these ufo stories because to me

1558
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:46,799
if a story can either be proven true or

1559
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,760
false

1560
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:49,920
then it has very little value for me

1561
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:56,549
if it's indistinguishable from

1562
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,319
you know complete whole [\h__\h] than it is

1563
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,920
and i guess i wanted to get into you

1564
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,599
know jeremy corbell has claimed there's

1565
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,240
all this other bob lazar footage that

1566
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,839
didn't make it into his film he's going

1567
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:09,520
to be releasing it

1568
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:10,640
um

1569
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,040
what do you think of the the profiteers

1570
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:15,200
that have made money from this story for

1571
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,400
so long

1572
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,880
and are they going to continue to make

1573
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:20,400
money from trying to make more money

1574
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,400
from this we've had the movie cash out

1575
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:24,559
now we've got a book cash out

1576
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,870
profit for these people

1577
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,359
that's what i hear i mean i don't know

1578
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,960
are they going to continue to try to

1579
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:38,720
push this story and keep profiting from

1580
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,920
it or is the story done it's a story

1581
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:43,599
that keeps giving because even if the

1582
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,960
government never

1583
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:46,960
admits to what they want them to admit

1584
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:48,079
to

1585
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:49,520
um they can just say that that's

1586
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:57,190
yeah yeah you're right

1587
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,799
like really what the government does is

1588
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,200
irrelevant whether they give any hints

1589
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:03,520
that this is this stuff is true or not

1590
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,720
they can always

1591
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,960
make make that

1592
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,280
be consistent with their narrative

1593
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:11,680
okay so yeah and what do you think of

1594
01:02:14,789 --> 01:02:13,039
you know i have a real problem with

1595
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,799
these two guys george knapp and jeremy

1596
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,640
corbell because they have profited most

1597
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:18,720
from the story and when we get these

1598
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:22,400
huge bombshells like victor colliero uh

1599
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:24,480
does an interview with a real life area

1600
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:26,319
51 security guard that worked there at

1601
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,960
the time who says he heard the news

1602
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:30,960
reports they went right away to look at

1603
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:33,280
the logs the flight logs to see if a bob

1604
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,240
lazar flew in or out of area 51 ever and

1605
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:37,839
found no he didn't

1606
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:40,480
then the guy goes all around the base

1607
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:42,960
looking for this mythical s4 and and he

1608
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:45,200
finds papoose lake is a desert wasteland

1609
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,760
there's nothing there so he calls george

1610
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:49,200
knapp and says

1611
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,520
you might want to fact check this guy

1612
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:53,280
and stop running with his story because

1613
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,319
he never stepped foot on area 51.

1614
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:58,400
georgina never comments on this new

1615
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:01,440
revelation on the education i guess

1616
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,520
knapp commented corbell just makes

1617
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:05,680
excuses and now we have these most

1618
01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:08,079
recent revelations from

1619
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:11,119
bob lazar's supervisor at

1620
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:14,000
at los alamos labs saying no he was

1621
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:16,000
never a scientist

1622
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,160
what do you make of them not commenting

1623
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,839
on any of this stuff like i would think

1624
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,760
that they should have to do

1625
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:23,280
you know

1626
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:25,920
a show like mine and answer questions

1627
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:28,000
like did you know about this

1628
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:31,200
because i don't think that corbell or

1629
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:33,119
nap couldn't get to the same sources

1630
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:33,920
that

1631
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,039
this other researcher got to

1632
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,200
the exact person that bob lazar worked

1633
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,359
for who says no he wasn't a scientist

1634
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:43,039
why don't they ever

1635
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,200
comment on this stuff is it just not in

1636
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,599
their best interest financially

1637
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:49,920
i think maybe nap has sort of sunken his

1638
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:52,240
costs into the lazar story

1639
01:03:55,109 --> 01:03:53,119
so

1640
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:55,119
he can't back out of it now because then

1641
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:56,240
he'd admit

1642
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,480
that lazar made a fool of him

1643
01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:00,640
i think knapp really did believe the

1644
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:02,559
story back in the day at least

1645
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:03,440
but

1646
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,920
he's become so embroiled in it that he

1647
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:07,200
can't easily

1648
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:09,039
admit that he was fooled

1649
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:10,240
without

1650
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:11,440
you know

1651
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,520
i don't know calling his reputational

1652
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,839
something like that into question

1653
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,079
at least yeah that's what it feels

1654
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,440
and i have a little bit of a history

1655
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:21,839
with matt because i i investigated this

1656
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:24,640
uh fbi raid i talked to the original

1657
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:26,240
investigators

1658
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,400
the fbi people i talked to the local

1659
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,079
sheriff in the town where bob lazar's

1660
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:31,839
business was in and they all verified

1661
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,400
for me that all of the so-called

1662
01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:36,480
facts and evidence that knapp and

1663
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:39,039
corbell put forth in that film

1664
01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:40,640
that's not what happened

1665
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,359
and so i i try to get an interview with

1666
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,280
knapp and he basically told me i don't

1667
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:47,280
know what i'm doing as an investigator

1668
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:48,480
and

1669
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:53,200
interview he just told me how wrong i

1670
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:56,079
was and that i have he's investigated

1671
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:57,599
all these murders and i don't know what

1672
01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:00,480
i'm doing and i mean i have like quotes

1673
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,119
from all these people that were involved

1674
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:04,880
a few of which were like shocked that

1675
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,799
they were used in a documentary like

1676
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:09,119
that to sell a story some of them had no

1677
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,240
idea

1678
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,559
you know the sheriff and the fbi agents

1679
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,960
all verified for me we didn't

1680
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:16,559
most of us didn't even know about bob

1681
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:19,039
lazar's flying saucer stories we just

1682
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,119
went there for a routine investigation

1683
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,039
get some receipts of purchase of a

1684
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:25,520
dangerous chemical and that was that was

1685
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,920
it and there wasn't 40 agents and they

1686
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:30,160
didn't search through every inch

1687
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:31,839
they were there for an hour or less

1688
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:33,520
there was you know eight of them 10 of

1689
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,400
them

1690
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:36,720
you know i don't know you won't comment

1691
01:05:40,150 --> 01:05:38,000
on that either

1692
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:40,160
i would also expect the department of

1693
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:42,559
energy um which has got its own counter

1694
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:44,079
intelligence and

1695
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:45,760
swat teams

1696
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:48,400
to have been involved if it was actually

1697
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,000
element 115 as lazar you know tries to

1698
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:54,000
imply

1699
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:55,280
you know if they're trying to recover

1700
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,760
this super danger or potentially super

1701
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:59,520
dangerous material

1702
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:00,640
um

1703
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,160
wouldn't they send like a

1704
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:06,480
i guess like a paramilitary unit

1705
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:08,880
they would sense yeah because according

1706
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,960
to bob lazar you could put this material

1707
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:12,960
into a particle accelerator and blow up

1708
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:15,039
half of las vegas

1709
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:16,960
and and he was gonna do that or he was

1710
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:19,599
threatening there's some mention that he

1711
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:20,319
was

1712
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:23,839
you know putting that into a particle

1713
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:25,280
accelerator should the government come

1714
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,240
after him and all this nonsense

1715
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:30,960
and we see a repeat actually the the

1716
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:34,000
story of the stolen element 115 getting

1717
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,680
stolen back

1718
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,000
it not only was that in the documentary

1719
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,000
but originally that was in the hollywood

1720
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:42,400
screenplay that george knapp or i'm

1721
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:44,559
sorry that that uh

1722
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,280
gene huff wrote there was a whole part

1723
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,680
of the storyline that bob lazar

1724
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:51,680
you know stole some of the element 115

1725
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,200
and he was keeping it at his house and

1726
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:54,960
then the men in black came in to bob

1727
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,599
lazar's house and stole that material

1728
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,640
back

1729
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,319
and this is essentially the same story

1730
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,240
that we get in the documentary 20 years

1731
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:03,839
after the hollywood screenplay was

1732
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:06,480
written and never picked up

1733
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:09,599
also nap claims that um he's got a

1734
01:07:16,549 --> 01:07:13,599
videotape showing area um element 115

1735
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,670
most important vhs tape in human history

1736
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,599
and he just can't find it

1737
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:23,039
although they did show like a little

1738
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,920
snippet of it supposedly on corp on

1739
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,280
joe rogan

1740
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,200
yeah that was like it looked like

1741
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,039
cocaine in a petri dish or something it

1742
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,119
looked like smoke and cocaine in a petri

1743
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:35,039
dish exactly right yeah it could have

1744
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,440
been anything right i mean it literally

1745
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:39,200
could have been anything

1746
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,760
i i you know i don't understand knapp

1747
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:43,039
saying that he knows where the element

1748
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,079
115 is buried losing the tape right

1749
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,160
he lost the tape that would prove bob

1750
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:52,319
it's telling the truth right

1751
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,520
yeah

1752
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:55,520
and losing evidence

1753
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:57,119
or misplacing it

1754
01:08:01,990 --> 01:07:58,799
or saying that you can't show it seems

1755
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:02,000
to be a recurring theme in ufology among

1756
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:04,720
these whistleblowers

1757
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:07,280
yeah you're absolutely right

1758
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:08,559
so

1759
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,079
what do you think the future of the bob

1760
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:12,000
lazar story is are we going to get more

1761
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,240
and more confirmation that he's a liar

1762
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:16,640
or are we ever going to get more

1763
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:19,520
information from the profit

1764
01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:21,279
motive motivated

1765
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:22,839
storytellers

1766
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,679
here i i don't know i think that bob did

1767
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,440
his cash out for his book he bought a

1768
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,000
new house with that and uh with a bunch

1769
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:31,920
of outbuildings i guess you can run his

1770
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,159
business there live there

1771
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,719
you know i i don't i i don't see there

1772
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:38,400
to be much more to the story but every

1773
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,080
time i think it's over

1774
01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:42,159
a little nugget of new information comes

1775
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,719
out usually indicating bob lazar is

1776
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:46,719
lying though

1777
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:48,080
yeah

1778
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,159
the thing about these stories which have

1779
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,040
happened now for you know decades ago is

1780
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,960
that

1781
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,960
this kind of contaminates other people's

1782
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,799
memories so they start to think that

1783
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:00,319
they saw things

1784
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:02,080
which they can't provide evidence for

1785
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:02,960
but

1786
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,960
sometimes you have people like

1787
01:09:09,910 --> 01:09:07,120
saying that they remember something

1788
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,920
which confirms lazar or aligns with his

1789
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,199
story

1790
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,199
but you know you have to

1791
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,199
distinguish that from just contaminated

1792
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,440
testimony

1793
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,120
you know what we really need is hard

1794
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,799
evidence like of the sort that he could

1795
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,319
provide if he actually

1796
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:25,440
had it namely element 115

1797
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,440
or some sort of scientific breakthrough

1798
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,040
but you know obviously he's not he's not

1799
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,719
going to provide that so all we're ever

1800
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,640
going to get are more of these little

1801
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:36,560
anecdotal stories

1802
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:38,799
yeah more maybes possibilities and isn't

1803
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:40,080
that interesting

1804
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,960
right i i love the the the so-called

1805
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:44,719
evidence that people present that's not

1806
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:46,960
evidence like well couldn't have been

1807
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,679
anything other than aliens you know

1808
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,880
i mean

1809
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,880
sometimes i think for all we know

1810
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:55,120
lazar was pumped and they took him into

1811
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:56,800
this place and he did see something like

1812
01:10:01,990 --> 01:09:59,440
a flying saucer and they pumped him

1813
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,000
to create stories to scare the russians

1814
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,320
or the soviet union at the time you you

1815
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:06,320
just don't know you know

1816
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:07,760
but most of me thinks that he's a

1817
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:10,880
profiteering he's a profiteering hoaxer

1818
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:13,120
it just never quite worked out

1819
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:14,719
the way that he he thought that they

1820
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:16,560
would get a hollywood movie him and jean

1821
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:19,440
huff and they would really cash in

1822
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,000
and it seems like it's it's never

1823
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:24,000
you know to his credit at least lazar

1824
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,840
never went after the ufo conference

1825
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:26,880
circuit

1826
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:29,199
and i'm told that he could make huge

1827
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,440
money there if he would go give talks

1828
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,679
but he never did that i guess going for

1829
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:35,440
the big bucks and it never really worked

1830
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:36,719
out

1831
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,320
it's more of a

1832
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:41,120
a slow burn type of story like if he was

1833
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,840
to

1834
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:43,280
you know really go all out with a

1835
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:44,480
profiteering

1836
01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:46,880
that would expose him as a a griffith

1837
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,880
professor yeah grifter yeah

1838
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:50,800
but um he's sort of been clever in that

1839
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:53,120
way by

1840
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,120
cultivating this image of this

1841
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:57,280
humble sort of

1842
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:58,640
you know

1843
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,199
yes and some supporters of his say he

1844
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:03,199
never tried to make any money he even

1845
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:04,960
says in the documentary i don't make any

1846
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,280
money from this he tried to cash in from

1847
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,280
the very first moment he had this model

1848
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,520
deal with testers and we talked to

1849
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,280
testers he had

1850
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:15,760
gotten paid a huge upfront

1851
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,560
check and then he got a royalty on every

1852
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,880
model sold and i'm told that those

1853
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:22,960
models sold in the millions

1854
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:26,400
so he got a cup yeah

1855
01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:28,640
so or or you know it depends on who you

1856
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,159
ask michael stratt has somebody

1857
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:32,800
different at testers who said well no

1858
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,400
maybe a million

1859
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,960
but still a million models and you get

1860
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,960
even if he gets a buck a model you know

1861
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:41,440
that's a million dollars and then this

1862
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:44,560
cashing in trying to sell this vhs tape

1863
01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:46,880
that he and gene huff produced

1864
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,320
um

1865
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:50,400
right away as soon as the story came out

1866
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:52,239
they were selling that

1867
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:54,640
you know vhs tape

1868
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,520
so

1869
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,600
and he has done a few appearances where

1870
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:59,280
he's gotten speaker fees like at the

1871
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:00,960
25th anniversary

1872
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,080
i'm not sure if it's accurate but

1873
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,480
somebody told me that he got 25 000 to

1874
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:06,800
be there for two hours

1875
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:08,560
that's good payout and then we have the

1876
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:10,960
book payout he claims he didn't get any

1877
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:12,080
money from

1878
01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:14,960
jeremy corbell's documentary i i don't

1879
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:16,159
know about that

1880
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:17,840
but

1881
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:20,560
he also says that he gives the money to

1882
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:22,560
well he simultaneously says he hasn't

1883
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,159
made any money and then he also said

1884
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:25,760
that he gives the money to

1885
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:28,640
schools and science projects

1886
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:33,510
yeah and he's selling products related

1887
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:37,280
to his ufo stories right on his website

1888
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,030
it's amazing to me i don't make any

1889
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:46,880
money from this well

1890
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:53,910
yeah i'm looking i'm looking at his uh

1891
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:57,679
area 51 collectibles here

1892
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:01,360
i can share that on my screen here

1893
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:02,640
one second

1894
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:09,350
yeah he doesn't make any money

1895
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:13,270
you can buy

1896
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,110
sport model schematic mug

1897
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:21,600
bob lazar movie poster

1898
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:23,920
fifty dollars wow bob was our movie

1899
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:26,159
sticker

1900
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:33,990
yeah and and you know what here

1901
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,920
this is where i have a big problem with

1902
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:37,040
him because

1903
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:40,159
to me right here this is consumer fraud

1904
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,679
because in the description of this

1905
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:43,920
product he's selling it says

1906
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,239
in december of 1988 through the april of

1907
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,520
1989 a young physicist named bob lazar

1908
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,239
worked at a government research facility

1909
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,239
to me he can't prove either of those

1910
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,640
statements but he's selling this product

1911
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:58,480
based on that

1912
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:01,840
you know sales pitch

1913
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,669
so i guess the he'll he'll just keep

1914
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:09,280
cashing in

1915
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:15,750
well and he'll be believed as well by

1916
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:17,920
most of his believers most of his um

1917
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:20,000
followers

1918
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,440
who are

1919
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,000
incredibly um reluctant to use a search

1920
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:28,950
yeah i've often wondered like

1921
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,800
you know i've had a chance to talk to a

1922
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:32,719
few that are really

1923
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:35,040
fervent believers and

1924
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:36,640
you know all these issues that we

1925
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:38,239
brought up tonight if i bring them up

1926
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,120
with him

1927
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:40,560
with with these

1928
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:42,159
people that really really believe the

1929
01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:43,760
story like i said it's almost like a

1930
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:45,280
religion and you're attacking them they

1931
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,840
either get angry and don't want to

1932
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:50,159
answer questions and i and i'm

1933
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:51,760
i come at it respectfully with them i

1934
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:53,440
say like i just don't understand how you

1935
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,920
could believe him because of x y or z

1936
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,440
like how do you explain these things

1937
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,239
they do mental gymnastics you know to to

1938
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:02,400
cover for for these things that don't

1939
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:04,010
make any sense right

1940
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:05,840
[Music]

1941
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:08,080
some some of the believers are very um

1942
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,920
actually i hate to say it but they're

1943
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,280
very toxic

1944
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:14,080
and they subscribe to a post-truth type

1945
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:15,520
of thinking

1946
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:17,199
where you can basically

1947
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,600
invent your own reality

1948
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:21,280
yeah

1949
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:23,760
enough people affirm that delusion then

1950
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:26,560
it becomes true by definition in their

1951
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:31,030
yeah

1952
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:33,520
it's a it's unfortunate that you know i

1953
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:35,520
i wish more would try to you know

1954
01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:37,840
because listen i i leave open the

1955
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,080
possibility i could be completely wrong

1956
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,560
and maybe these are just inconsistencies

1957
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,320
a lot of people say well who cares if he

1958
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,640
was a real scientist maybe he was just a

1959
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,239
science nerd and they wanted a different

1960
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:50,239
perspective right

1961
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,080
but here we have him uh selling all

1962
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,239
kinds of t-shirts mugs

1963
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:56,640
posters and saying he doesn't make any

1964
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:58,480
money from this

1965
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:03,669
i can't lie i've bought stuff from bob

1966
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,960
lazar's company but not his ufo stuff

1967
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,239
did you know

1968
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,440
that bob lazar is famous in the

1969
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:13,360
in the um

1970
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,960
theater world

1971
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:16,320
for one thing

1972
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:18,480
glow-in-the-dark paint

1973
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,199
bob lazar sells the best glow and the

1974
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:23,679
brightest craziest best glow-in-the-dark

1975
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:26,159
paint you'll ever find anywhere

1976
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:28,239
and uh i don't know how he makes it

1977
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:30,640
where he gets it but it is like if you

1978
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:31,920
go to home depot and buy the

1979
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,400
glow-in-the-dark paint they have there

1980
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,480
and then you paint one side of a board

1981
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,640
with it and then you get bob lazar's

1982
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,560
glow to dark paint and paint the other

1983
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,000
side of the board with it i'm not

1984
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,239
kidding you bob lazar's glow-in-the-dark

1985
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:47,040
paint will be 10 times brighter glowing

1986
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:50,960
than the than the stuff at home depot

1987
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:52,480
it's literally

1988
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,640
it's from zebra yeah maybe it's aliens

1989
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,400
showing maybe the aliens showed him how

1990
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:58,320
to make the best glow-in-the-dark paint

1991
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,040
so

1992
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:01,280
for all of my criticism of bob lazar a

1993
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,120
few things i will say is i'm a science

1994
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:05,520
nerd myself he sells some fun cool weird

1995
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,400
stuff

1996
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,320
you know but i just wish that he would

1997
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,640
do it without the uh

1998
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:12,560
the uh

1999
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:16,640
ufo you know connection there

2000
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,719
right and i've often thought maybe the

2001
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:20,480
last move for him would be to come out

2002
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,199
and

2003
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:23,040
write a book about how he made this [\h__\h]

2004
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:24,480
all up because that would be another

2005
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,719
cash in right

2006
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,000
yeah

2007
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:29,920
he would he'd be open to um consumer

2008
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,239
fraud child oh yeah i guess you're right

2009
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,760
yeah yeah

2010
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:35,920
but i guess maybe on his on his deathbed

2011
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:38,719
when he's really old he will

2012
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:41,280
everyone the middle finger

2013
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,960
yeah yeah and it seems like more and

2014
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:44,880
more people are interested enough in the

2015
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:46,880
story like you and uh

2016
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:48,880
and and this other recent researcher

2017
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:51,840
that we we talked about and uh jeremy

2018
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,000
rise alien scientist and solar marshall

2019
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,960
have been what is forever

2020
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,480
it seems like more and more people are

2021
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:00,480
interested in debunking this story is

2022
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:06,870
so besides bob lazar can you talk

2023
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:09,040
briefly about some of the other stuff

2024
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:11,600
that you cover i see you cover uh

2025
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:14,480
billy meyer as well

2026
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:17,040
yeah billy meyer and um some stuff

2027
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:24,950
figure figure figure

2028
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,040
which is the um maya sects um website

2029
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:31,440
and there were some claims last year

2030
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:32,960
that um

2031
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:34,960
he was trying to connect michael horn

2032
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,960
was trying to connect uh

2033
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:39,360
these photos which was supposedly taken

2034
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:41,120
at area 51

2035
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:43,920
by wendell stevens

2036
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,320
he was trying to connect he loves

2037
01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:48,480
he loves citing wendell stevens as a

2038
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:49,679
source

2039
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:52,560
so a child molester had these pictures

2040
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,679
that died so this is proof

2041
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:57,600
yeah exactly

2042
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,280
and what is it that you failed because i

2043
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:00,719
haven't looked into these specific

2044
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,400
pictures i just thought they were more

2045
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:05,760
hokey fakes so i sort of skipped it

2046
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:08,800
so he was linking these photos to a

2047
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,560
supposed incident that had been talked

2048
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,159
about i guess in the i think it was in

2049
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:14,640
the 1970s where

2050
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:16,159
um

2051
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,000
incident that had supposedly taken place

2052
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:20,640
in switzerland where some fighter jets

2053
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,360
were chasing the beam ships

2054
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:25,760
and then now he's saying that in fact it

2055
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,120
was the area 51 incident where

2056
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,159
wendell stevens was

2057
01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:34,320
he traveled through time

2058
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,430
to view the maiden flight of the f-117

2059
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:42,960
stealth aircraft

2060
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:45,199
and then i found a bunch of like

2061
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:47,679
operational details which

2062
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:51,280
um contradict that narrative so

2063
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:52,640
you can't bother

2064
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,640
you cannot bother mikey horn with the

2065
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:57,040
facts his mind is already made up those

2066
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:58,960
aren't garbage cans those are real

2067
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,280
spaceships in those pictures and stuff

2068
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:03,679
yeah so you so you found some you found

2069
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,440
some historical

2070
01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:06,639
uh

2071
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:08,719
information that would yeah that would

2072
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:11,760
totally blow his story to [\h__\h] you know

2073
01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:13,520
mikey horn is another interesting one he

2074
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:16,840
loves saying things like nasa scientist

2075
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,760
confirms billy meyer case is real then

2076
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:21,679
you try to get to the nasa scientist who

2077
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:23,840
said that and you never do

2078
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:28,390
at the risk of pissing off the billy

2079
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:30,960
meyer cult again they uh oh they come

2080
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,960
after me every time we mention them they

2081
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:34,800
don't they don't like criticism very

2082
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,159
much

2083
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,080
have you uh have you gotten those

2084
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:40,080
hundred sock accounts of mikey horns

2085
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:41,600
pissed off at you yet

2086
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:44,000
they were commenting in this very in the

2087
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,760
comment section for that very article

2088
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,280
oh we're going to look at some of that

2089
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:51,600
that's funny

2090
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,280
it's going to load in a second yeah i

2091
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:55,120
think it's loaded now

2092
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,960
oh it'll load in a second yeah those

2093
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:59,040
guys are just like

2094
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,520
and the venom from them is so like i

2095
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,360
said it's like attacking their religion

2096
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,280
i suppose it's

2097
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:07,280
the billy meyer cult is not just about

2098
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:09,440
ufos it also has an element of

2099
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:12,960
spirituality that billy meyer claims was

2100
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:15,360
imparted to him by these super advanced

2101
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:17,760
extraterrestrial aliens

2102
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:18,800
and so

2103
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:21,120
it's truly like a religion for these

2104
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:23,840
people and for you to say that you know

2105
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:24,639
this

2106
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:27,120
stuff is garbage

2107
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,480
yeah they do not they do not like that

2108
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,320
scroll down i think it's already loaded

2109
01:21:37,870 --> 01:21:35,679
further down oh there we go yeah

2110
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,880
oh yeah

2111
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:39,120
[Music]

2112
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:41,120
yeah

2113
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,239
regarding the meyer photos

2114
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,320
yeah and the funny thing is that you

2115
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:54,800
have all these different commenters it's

2116
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:57,120
probably all mikey horn he has like a

2117
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,960
hundred different fake sock accounts

2118
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:00,239
that he uses

2119
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,270
you do such extreme mental gymnastics

2120
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:07,840
regarding the meyer photos and beamship

2121
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:09,199
he ignores everything that would

2122
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,199
disprove his allegations

2123
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:13,120
his overthought write up actually

2124
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:15,040
debunks himself it's an exercise of

2125
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,080
skepticism without facts and meanwhile

2126
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,400
you've got eight pages of facts here

2127
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:21,920
that they don't wanna they don't even

2128
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:24,000
wanna i doubt they even read what you

2129
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:26,239
wrote they're just like

2130
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,520
you know screw this guy

2131
01:22:33,669 --> 01:22:31,440
these are these unresearched and

2132
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:33,679
therefore unprofessional articles are

2133
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,840
only good for cali everyone else who

2134
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:37,520
gains knowledge through proper research

2135
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,639
and education

2136
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,239
sees through this because everything

2137
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:43,440
began in 1964

2138
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,199
the picture on the top left of the blog

2139
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:47,360
clearly shows an unhappy person who is

2140
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:49,600
going against his own inner voice

2141
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,600
not sure what happened to him but we can

2142
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:53,840
heal and have a life with less burden so

2143
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:55,280
see

2144
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:57,679
louis you're the problem you you have

2145
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:59,360
something wrong with you

2146
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:00,480
absolutely

2147
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:03,280
unresearched and unprofessional article

2148
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:05,360
and meanwhile you have 10 pages of

2149
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,360
evidence here

2150
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:09,520
how is this on research louis i don't

2151
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:12,800
get it i i don't understand

2152
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:18,950
yeah oh and and the fact that this story

2153
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,440
also involves billy meyer or excuse me

2154
01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:23,280
wendell stevens for those who don't know

2155
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:26,239
wendell stevens was a multiple he was a

2156
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:29,040
child molester convicted of multiple

2157
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:30,800
different offenses with multiple

2158
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:32,960
different victims all child related

2159
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:35,600
sexual offenses and mikey horn loves to

2160
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,520
cite wendell stevens as proof of his

2161
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,679
alien claims first of all because he's

2162
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:41,920
dead and second of all

2163
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:44,000
you know he doesn't want to talk about

2164
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,440
the fact that he keeps citing a child

2165
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:47,120
molester as a source

2166
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,600
i think that's relevant right it goes to

2167
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:51,840
credibility doesn't it

2168
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:55,520
oh yeah and a lot of these um ufo people

2169
01:24:02,229 --> 01:23:57,920
um a disturbing amount

2170
01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:02,239
seem to have these sorts of issues with

2171
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,520
i don't

2172
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:04,960
don't want to say they're all pedophiles

2173
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,400
but um

2174
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:08,400
some of them are criminality yeah it's

2175
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:10,080
some of these

2176
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:11,840
very dodgy behavior

2177
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,600
or you know history of making stuff up

2178
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,480
yeah and uh yeah we see this

2179
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,080
you're the one with the blob called

2180
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:22,400
ufology is corrupt but one thing that

2181
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:25,520
i've seen that one yeah

2182
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,040
one of the things that i will say is

2183
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:29,760
that in my study of these stories i have

2184
01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:32,639
found that many of these witnesses or

2185
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:35,120
so-called whistleblowers are

2186
01:24:38,629 --> 01:24:37,120
very problematic from a criminal

2187
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:38,639
standpoint they either have criminal

2188
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,719
backgrounds sexual offenses with

2189
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:43,679
children rape conviction something

2190
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:46,159
that leads me to believe that less than

2191
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:48,320
scrupulous people who like to sell alien

2192
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:50,239
stories love using people like that

2193
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,600
because they'll say anything you know

2194
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:55,600
murderers even kerry cassidy uses

2195
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:57,760
murderers captain mark richards is

2196
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,239
supposed to be in a secret space program

2197
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,239
you know he teleports out of his prison

2198
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:04,639
cell and he goes on buck rogers space

2199
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:10,709
if this thing really is

2200
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,400
he doesn't teleport himself out of the

2201
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:14,239
prison cell though

2202
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:17,920
like to just live outside on earth

2203
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,639
no he goes to save earth he's on secret

2204
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:22,159
space missions according to carrie

2205
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,360
cassidy

2206
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,280
and uh

2207
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,320
i was in the live chat and and one show

2208
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:30,320
host was brave enough to put my question

2209
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,560
up and she lost her goddamn mind start

2210
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:34,719
yelling and screaming when i said

2211
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,520
you use rapists and child molesters or

2212
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:39,440
excuse me child molesters and murderers

2213
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:41,440
as sources she lost her mind start

2214
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:43,040
yelling and screaming

2215
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,280
you know

2216
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:47,920
i suppose uh mikey horn too i mean what

2217
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:50,080
he said is who cares if he was a child

2218
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:51,360
molester we're talking about the

2219
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:54,480
information not his past or i'm like

2220
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:00,550
so what what

2221
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:02,000
i'm sorry go ahead

2222
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:03,360
no you go ahead

2223
01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:06,320
michael horn um was defending the

2224
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:07,760
the space gun

2225
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,760
right

2226
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,199
the toy gun

2227
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,550
he was saying something like uh

2228
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:19,360
that it shot a hole through a tree like

2229
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:22,239
the laser beam fired through the tree

2230
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:24,239
yeah and the child molester saw it so it

2231
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:26,000
must be a true story

2232
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,840
he saw the hole in the tree

2233
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:29,840
yeah it has to be true because uh you

2234
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:32,159
know billy meyer who's only got one arm

2235
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:34,400
because he lost one in an accident he

2236
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:35,920
couldn't possibly have gotten help from

2237
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:39,199
anyone else in making up this story

2238
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:40,800
yeah basically what michael horn is

2239
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:42,400
saying that it's impossible for a

2240
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,760
one-armed man

2241
01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:45,440
to make up a story and that we have to

2242
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:49,040
go immediately to aliens did it

2243
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,880
yeah yeah and interestingly there's a

2244
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:52,639
person that recreated many of the billy

2245
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:54,159
meyer films and

2246
01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:56,960
and photos on youtube and he did it with

2247
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:58,639
one arm yeah just to prove that it could

2248
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:59,679
be done

2249
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:01,600
and mikey horn hates that guy because

2250
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:03,840
that blows his story to [\h__\h] like that's

2251
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:05,120
a big

2252
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:06,880
how's he building these models with one

2253
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:07,840
arm

2254
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,960
you know slowly i i don't know you know

2255
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:12,960
how's he hanging lines with one arm this

2256
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:19,430
so what do you think uh

2257
01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:21,199
what what's next for your blog what

2258
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:22,880
stories are you looking into i don't

2259
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:25,360
want to keep you for too much longer and

2260
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:26,960
but i i am

2261
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,159
a tip uh the a tip story and um the

2262
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,639
whole skin walker story as well and the

2263
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:34,400
connection between the two because i

2264
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:36,080
know that there's many people who are

2265
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:38,719
connected and have over the the decades

2266
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:40,639
been involved in like psychic research

2267
01:27:46,629 --> 01:27:41,520
and

2268
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:46,639
some grifts on the side like hal pothoff

2269
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:48,400
has been involved in this for a long

2270
01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:49,679
long time

2271
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:52,719
how put off wasted wasted millions of

2272
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:53,760
dollars

2273
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,120
studying

2274
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:57,280
yuri geller and other psychics and he

2275
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,920
declared yuri geller real and that his

2276
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:02,880
powers were supernatural and years later

2277
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:05,120
yuri geller would admit that he used

2278
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,800
magic tricks to fool

2279
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:09,840
everyone like literal magic tricks i

2280
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,800
think that's

2281
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:12,480
says everything that you need to know

2282
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:14,080
about hal put off but somehow he's

2283
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:15,840
totally respected like some kind of

2284
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:16,719
really

2285
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:19,679
serious scientific researcher right

2286
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:20,960
yeah but so

2287
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:24,159
so is jacques valet who also credits um

2288
01:28:29,350 --> 01:28:27,679
yuri gala as a psychic even though he

2289
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:29,360
financial aspect

2290
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,880
that you know geller is out there for

2291
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:33,280
the money he also seems to think that

2292
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:35,760
geller really did exhibit you know

2293
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:38,560
extraordinary abilities

2294
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:41,120
and now magic jerks

2295
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,040
yeah but no he says actually that he

2296
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,960
does think that gela

2297
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,320
um

2298
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,719
was using psychic powers

2299
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:50,080
and

2300
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,639
more recently um jacques velez actually

2301
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:54,719
credited the crash narrative

2302
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:58,800
with his um trinity story

2303
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:01,040
with a paula harris

2304
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:03,040
so that's a story that he was or a

2305
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,719
narrative that he was really steering

2306
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:07,280
clear from for decades

2307
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,639
saying that i don't need the money you

2308
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:10,480
need a new book right it must be

2309
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:13,760
something maybe it's just

2310
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:16,000
i don't know it could be that

2311
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:18,080
something to do with death because

2312
01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:23,669
i don't know it still seems weird that

2313
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:26,400
jacques ville jacques ville would um go

2314
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:28,639
in so heavily for the

2315
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:29,920
crowd

2316
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:32,639
yeah and that was pretty woo of a story

2317
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:34,400
the whole thing and the fact that paula

2318
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:37,120
harris is involved with him because she

2319
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,719
will she's another one like linda mullen

2320
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,800
hale and i have nothing against her but

2321
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:42,880
she believes every story that she's told

2322
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:44,560
she thinks billy meyer is real and

2323
01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:46,080
damsky's real

2324
01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:48,159
you know howard menger's real all those

2325
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:50,639
contacts and the aliens are real

2326
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:55,750
will be interesting to see what you dig

2327
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:57,440
up on atip and skinwalker and the

2328
01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:58,960
connection there

2329
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,480
i did make i don't know if you want to

2330
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:02,639
show this but i did actually have

2331
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:04,480
on the blog some

2332
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:07,199
uh if you go to the article

2333
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,760
mapping the ufo scene

2334
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:11,760
oh yeah i saw that let me get to that

2335
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:13,520
one second

2336
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,400
so i'm constantly updating the graphs to

2337
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:18,400
sort of um

2338
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,239
provide like a visual oversight of the

2339
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,840
whole situation

2340
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:23,440
yeah and just so everybody is aware we

2341
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:26,560
did put louis links for both his website

2342
01:30:32,950 --> 01:30:29,120
and his youtube into the

2343
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:45,350
one second

2344
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:48,470
if you go back to blog on top

2345
01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:51,679
oh no sorry that's the article

2346
01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:57,750
one second

2347
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,280
anyway

2348
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:00,639
yeah i thought that was

2349
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:02,560
i thought that was the article you go

2350
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:04,400
back to blog

2351
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:05,920
and you have

2352
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:08,239
more leads on atip ttsa i thought that

2353
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:09,840
was the one you wanted

2354
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:11,360
but just go a bit further down there's a

2355
01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:14,400
few more of these sorts of graphs um

2356
01:31:19,270 --> 01:31:17,360
including oh yeah benowitz

2357
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:19,280
yeah and this this article i thought was

2358
01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,800
pretty interesting you did this one

2359
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:22,800
called ufos are almost certainly not

2360
01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:25,280
extraterrestrial interdimensional or

2361
01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:27,679
supernatural and you give a pretty

2362
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:30,480
convincing report of that yeah here

2363
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:32,960
mapping the ufo scene using association

2364
01:31:35,910 --> 01:31:34,159
charts

2365
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:35,920
that's interesting how all these people

2366
01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:37,520
are connected right

2367
01:31:42,310 --> 01:31:40,239
yeah because i really wanted to i kept

2368
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:42,320
noticing people cropping up again and

2369
01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:45,040
again and i just wanted to give

2370
01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:47,199
a kind of visual overview of that to

2371
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,560
make it easier

2372
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:51,120
because it can get pretty complicated

2373
01:31:54,950 --> 01:31:52,560
yeah a lot of these people definitely

2374
01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:54,960
are connected they work together they

2375
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:58,080
grip together you know

2376
01:32:02,790 --> 01:31:59,840
i love it when one confirms another

2377
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:05,750
like somehow two people with no evidence

2378
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:07,600
means the story is true but one person

2379
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:10,960
with no evidence is you know

2380
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:20,870
yes you have this organizational chart

2381
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:23,750
and it includes greg bishop mark pill

2382
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:26,400
pilkington bill cooper paul benowitz

2383
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:29,040
greg gourdy

2384
01:32:34,470 --> 01:32:31,280
richard dodie paul benowitz

2385
01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:34,480
jerry miller everybody's connected here

2386
01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:36,639
and then there's the nycap intelligence

2387
01:32:41,110 --> 01:32:38,800
community saga

2388
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:41,120
that's from jack brewer's book mostly i

2389
01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:43,040
got the information from

2390
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:44,960
his uh

2391
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:47,520
one of his books

2392
01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:50,560
now lou alexander tom delong a tip ttsa

2393
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:52,719
saga we have the whole

2394
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:54,880
organizational chart for that that's

2395
01:33:01,750 --> 01:32:59,350
interesting stuff

2396
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:01,760
and and tedious work right you must like

2397
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:03,440
tedious work though from what i've seen

2398
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:06,400
because you're very thorough

2399
01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:10,080
and detail-oriented more than i can be

2400
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:11,440
can be very

2401
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:17,430
yeah i mean obviously you have some

2402
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:20,480
interest in these subjects so do i but

2403
01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:23,040
it to me it just gets to be like one

2404
01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:24,560
disappointment after another

2405
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:27,360
disappointment

2406
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:30,080
and i i almost uh

2407
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:32,639
i almost missed the times before i

2408
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,239
really dug deep into some of these

2409
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:36,960
speakers and other stories when i just

2410
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:39,520
thought yeah maybe this is true

2411
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:42,159
and you didn't dig too deep right maybe

2412
01:33:45,910 --> 01:33:44,159
we both just don't we got we both dug

2413
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:45,920
too deep down this rabbit hole is that

2414
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:47,920
what happened

2415
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:49,440
i i guess i

2416
01:33:53,430 --> 01:33:51,360
i already wanted to explore the

2417
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:53,440
sociological aspect

2418
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:56,560
because i already stopped believing in

2419
01:34:01,669 --> 01:34:00,080
the alien story so i knew that

2420
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:01,679
knew that it was a sociological thing

2421
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:04,159
going on so i wanted to explore that

2422
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:05,360
aspect

2423
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:08,080
so i guess i can't be disappointed

2424
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,000
yeah you seem to focus a lot on the

2425
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:12,400
psychological aspects of this

2426
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:15,040
which is interesting you you you sort of

2427
01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:17,600
zone in on why people believe this that

2428
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,360
there's this need that they have or

2429
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:20,880
they're missing something in their own

2430
01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:22,080
lives

2431
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:23,920
it's it's an interesting perspective to

2432
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:24,960
think

2433
01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:27,520
about from a psychology perspective why

2434
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:29,360
are so many people

2435
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,320
so

2436
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:32,800
intensely interested into this like i

2437
01:34:35,470 --> 01:34:34,320
said it becomes a religion for some

2438
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:35,480
people

2439
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,639
[Music]

2440
01:34:41,669 --> 01:34:38,159
we have a nice article on havana

2441
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:44,149
oh corruption and vinality in the ufo

2442
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:46,400
paranormal scene structural not

2443
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:48,159
incidental

2444
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:50,800
yeah so ufos are corrupt

2445
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:53,760
ufology is corrupt.com

2446
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:56,400
uh and of course you have a a slot there

2447
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:59,440
for videos which will take them to your

2448
01:35:03,990 --> 01:35:02,159
uh to your uh

2449
01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:04,000
to your youtube channel and i noticed

2450
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:05,600
you don't have many subscribers so

2451
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:07,360
everybody should go and subscribe

2452
01:35:11,109 --> 01:35:08,960
because uh

2453
01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:11,119
lewis is doing great work it's very

2454
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:13,119
detailed if you like

2455
01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:15,840
i'm a data person so i i love what he

2456
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:18,800
does and it's all laid out

2457
01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:22,080
oh you mentioned john ventry in this

2458
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:23,360
corruption

2459
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:24,880
in ufology

2460
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,480
and what do you say to the people that

2461
01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:28,239
argue against that that there's not

2462
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:33,750
i can't argue against such people

2463
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:41,510
i think you may be right you know

2464
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:43,600
i think many people who are into ufos

2465
01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:46,560
and they believe in the alien hypothesis

2466
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:47,840
or

2467
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:53,440
there is

2468
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:55,600
a grift going on and they're trying to

2469
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,639
sort of

2470
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:58,400
you know separate the real stuff from

2471
01:36:01,910 --> 01:36:00,159
the fake stuff

2472
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,920
um whereas i think that it's there's

2473
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:04,000
nothing really real under the surface

2474
01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:05,679
it's just

2475
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:08,239
psychology and sociology that explains

2476
01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:11,360
it but um i think no reasonable person

2477
01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:12,560
would deny that there's a lot of

2478
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,159
corruption in

2479
01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:16,239
ufology

2480
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,639
or in you know the paranormal scene more

2481
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:20,639
generally

2482
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:22,880
yeah i i sometimes i think that i'm a

2483
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:24,719
little too harsh because i focus on the

2484
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:27,679
darker side i i will say in the defense

2485
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:29,760
of this thing that there are some really

2486
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,560
good people that really are just

2487
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:34,960
interested and they're searching

2488
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:37,360
for the truth behind these stories

2489
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:40,159
but more often than not i see a lot of

2490
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,800
profiteers and a lot of people that

2491
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:44,880
don't care if the story is true or not

2492
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:45,679
just

2493
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:47,760
need something to sell

2494
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,400
the race to create more content for

2495
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:52,159
these people to consume because they're

2496
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,639
such a hunger for this information i

2497
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,880
think that may be why all the hoaxers

2498
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:58,880
are so successful

2499
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:00,880
because there's this rabid fan base just

2500
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:04,000
waiting for the next new story right

2501
01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:05,600
and there is a religious thing going on

2502
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:06,960
definitely

2503
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:09,199
where the the ufos and aliens sort of

2504
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:11,679
take the place of god or traditional

2505
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:13,360
spirituality

2506
01:37:18,149 --> 01:37:15,920
and the disclosure narrative has got a

2507
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:18,159
lot of parallels to

2508
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:21,520
some aspects of christian eschatology so

2509
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:24,000
the coming day like the coming of christ

2510
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:26,239
is replaced with the big government

2511
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:27,840
reveal

2512
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:29,679
and stuff like that so there's a lot of

2513
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:31,920
sort of underlying maybe even

2514
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:35,040
unconscious religious uh impulses going

2515
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:36,800
on

2516
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,520
things is that i think that a lot of

2517
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:41,760
these people that are so rapidly

2518
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:44,719
believers haven't been here long enough

2519
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:46,639
because once you're here long enough the

2520
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:48,480
whole disclosure's coming any day

2521
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,199
narrative sort of falls apart it's every

2522
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,040
couple of years there's some new thing

2523
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,280
that's gonna that's gonna be the that's

2524
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:57,520
gonna be the tipping point but we never

2525
01:38:02,310 --> 01:38:00,480
get there never

2526
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,320
and then the proponents you know they

2527
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:04,239
sort of remember how much everybody

2528
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,880
hyped this 180 day report this is going

2529
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:08,560
to be it and then they all slithered

2530
01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:10,880
away when it was a nothing burger you

2531
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:11,920
know

2532
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:19,590
well i want to thank you for uh coming

2533
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:21,440
here i want to remind everybody it's

2534
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:24,239
ufology is corrupt.com

2535
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:26,400
is the best place to find louis and his

2536
01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:29,119
work and what i'm happy to say will be

2537
01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:31,520
continuing work on this subject

2538
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:33,920
uh reminded me a little bit of robert

2539
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:37,040
schaefer's uh what is it bad ufo blog

2540
01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:39,840
you know your ufo watchdog i'm glad to

2541
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:40,639
see

2542
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:43,199
somebody else uh taking up the mantle

2543
01:38:47,189 --> 01:38:45,440
and doing this this good work i know

2544
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,199
it's a thankless job so i'll be the

2545
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,880
first to thank you for doing this

2546
01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:50,639
because i love seeing it in black and

2547
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:53,520
white written out here's all the

2548
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:55,679
evidence and people can read through it

2549
01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:59,679
and make up their own mind right yep

2550
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,360
i hope that you'll come back again once

2551
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,119
you get another couple of articles maybe

2552
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:05,520
we could talk about uh your newer work

2553
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,400
right

2554
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:08,400
sure

2555
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:11,360
thank you doors always uh open you're

2556
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,760
most welcome here so i'm going to throw

2557
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,119
you out and we're going to take a

2558
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,199
musical break and then i'm going to come

2559
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:18,719
back and read the super chats i don't

2560
01:39:22,390 --> 01:39:21,440
want to interrupt our talk

2561
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,400
thank you

2562
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:24,560
all right thanks for doing this lewis so

2563
01:39:30,629 --> 01:39:28,400
there we have it ufology is corrupt.com

2564
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:30,639
there's actually a website

2565
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:33,280
ufology is corrupt.com

2566
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:34,960
and i believe that if you're interested

2567
01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:37,199
in this especially if you're just

2568
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:39,360
not blindly believing if you really want

2569
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:40,960
to know the truth behind some of the

2570
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:43,840
characters and stories in this thing

2571
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:46,320
ufology is corrupt.com is an excellent

2572
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:47,520
resource

2573
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:49,760
now if you're just a true believer and

2574
01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:52,560
you don't care to

2575
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:56,560
about people's backgrounds that are

2576
01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:58,880
telling this story you know criminal

2577
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:01,040
histories and things like that

2578
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:02,880
if you're not interested in the fact

2579
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:05,920
that ufology may be corrupt maybe

2580
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,520
you don't want to hear it but if you

2581
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,040
really want the truth behind these

2582
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:11,199
things i think it's important to read

2583
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:13,679
all perspectives especially as a more

2584
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:15,199
skeptical one

2585
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,800
so here's what we're going to do folks i

2586
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:18,400
did notice a few super chats i want to

2587
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:19,920
thank everybody for their kindness their

2588
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:23,440
generosity and their support of the show

2589
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:26,159
after all we are a viewer supported show

2590
01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:28,000
here and it's a good time for me to

2591
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,280
remind you there's a few ways that you

2592
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,920
can support us the first is on patreon

2593
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:33,440
for as little as a dollar a month we'll

2594
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:36,239
be doing some extra patreon only streams

2595
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:38,560
we do a monthly show journal i post all

2596
01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:41,679
of my music music videos uh other

2597
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:44,480
production videos all get posted there

2598
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:46,400
before they become public so you get

2599
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:47,679
sort of a

2600
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:50,639
backstage view and a preview of work to

2601
01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:51,840
come here

2602
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,960
that will be released on the channel

2603
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:55,840
also

2604
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:57,520
uh you can make a paypal donation the

2605
01:41:02,790 --> 01:40:59,280
instructions to do that are in the

2606
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:02,800
bottom uh description of this video we

2607
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:05,920
take cash app now it's truth seeker show

2608
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:08,320
at cash app or you can use that money

2609
01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:10,159
button down there the super chats that's

2610
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:12,000
a great way to support the show or buy a

2611
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,679
super sticker show your support of the

2612
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:16,320
show so that we can continue in this

2613
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:17,280
work

2614
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:19,199
um we're going to take a short musical

2615
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:21,840
break with my friends bong

2616
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:25,199
the band bong not the bong

2617
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:27,520
over there no the band there's a band

2618
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,600
name bong

2619
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:31,520
and uh they had me at their band name

2620
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,440
being bong but they make a lot of

2621
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:35,360
excellent music that is somewhat related

2622
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,760
to conspiracy land and aliens and things

2623
01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:38,800
like that

2624
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:40,719
uh so tonight we'll be playing using

2625
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:42,320
them as a musical guest and playing

2626
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:44,800
their song destroy all humans when we

2627
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:47,199
return i will read every single super

2628
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:49,119
chat we read every single paypal

2629
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:50,239
donation

2630
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:51,600
and um

2631
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,440
if you have comments or questions for me

2632
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,679
we'll have a short discussion just put

2633
01:42:00,000 --> 01:41:57,360
your question for me in all capital

2634
01:42:25,669 --> 01:42:00,010
letters we'll be right back friends

2635
01:42:27,790 --> 01:42:25,679
[Music]

2636
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:27,800
the rob is

2637
01:42:31,150 --> 01:42:29,360
[Music]

2638
01:43:04,629 --> 01:42:31,160
is

2639
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:04,639
[Music]

2640
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:45,990
destroy humans

2641
01:43:46,000 --> 01:44:03,210
just right

2642
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:04,830
[Music]

2643
01:44:10,340 --> 01:44:06,639
hey

2644
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:10,350
all around the world

2645
01:45:16,790 --> 01:44:54,070
[Music]

2646
01:45:22,229 --> 01:45:19,669
greetings and salutations so we are back

2647
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:22,239
i i see a comment from moody mongol

2648
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:23,840
tonight on third phase does steven

2649
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,360
campbell need to wear

2650
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,040
different headphones on his shows to

2651
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:29,520
hide his growing vulcan ears and could

2652
01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:32,400
they be a tunnel leading to s4 tonight

2653
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:34,080
on third phase

2654
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,159
you know i wish those guys are best of

2655
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:38,400
success but uh i disagree with a lot of

2656
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:42,320
what they do and a lot of what they uh

2657
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,760
promote like dr steven greer but

2658
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:47,280
sometimes it's best to just agree to

2659
01:45:56,310 --> 01:45:53,270
i don't know not get like nasty about a

2660
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:56,320
disagreement i suppose we've uh

2661
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:58,480
done enough of that

2662
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,880
uh i want to remind everybody as well

2663
01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,480
i'll see if i can't find it i'm going to

2664
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:04,480
put the link in the description but we

2665
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:06,159
have uh

2666
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:08,960
yesterday we didn't do a show because i

2667
01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:11,600
uh did a guest appearance on

2668
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:13,199
griffbusters

2669
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:15,840
and that is on the channel m seeker of

2670
01:46:20,750 --> 01:46:18,080
truth you can just put m secret truth

2671
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:20,760
into the youtube search bar it's

2672
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:22,400
clickbusters8

2673
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,320
i'm gonna copy and i will put that into

2674
01:46:30,070 --> 01:46:28,000
the

2675
01:46:31,189 --> 01:46:30,080
live chat here just bear with me one

2676
01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:31,199
moment

2677
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:33,760
and on that show we

2678
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:37,040
go over and detail a lot of information

2679
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:38,080
on both

2680
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:42,000
simon parks and also our favorite fake

2681
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:43,600
psychic healer

2682
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:46,000
sarah r adams

2683
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,080
so i've put that in the live chat uh

2684
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:50,080
wait a minute i'll put a link to

2685
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:01,189
that is in the live chat right now we're

2686
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:03,440
going to check in with the super chat so

2687
01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:04,800
if you have any

2688
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,719
money to throw in our hat please do it

2689
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,639
now we're going to be wrapping up things

2690
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:10,639
shortly here

2691
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:11,920
uh

2692
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:14,880
let me share it this way one second

2693
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:16,800
we'll share our screen and recognize

2694
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,960
those kind and generous supporters who

2695
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:19,920
are

2696
01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:22,320
uh throwing a couple of bucks in our hat

2697
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:25,760
so tonight we had ice cream shots

2698
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,960
with a dollar super chat and ice cream

2699
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:30,800
shots with another dollar super chat

2700
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:32,480
double dollars thank you very much for

2701
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,159
your kindness your generosity and your

2702
01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:36,560
support

2703
01:47:40,870 --> 01:47:38,480
lead guy with a kind of generous dollar

2704
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:40,880
99 super chat saying

2705
01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:44,719
bob lazar owes stephen 29.99

2706
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:51,109
amy wii with a kind generous three

2707
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,960
dollar super sticker

2708
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,040
and al warrior with a kind and generous

2709
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:58,000
three dollar super chat

2710
01:48:01,990 --> 01:48:00,080
truth seekers

2711
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:02,000
with

2712
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:10,709
so thank you all

2713
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,360
for your kindness

2714
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,520
thank you all for your generosity

2715
01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:17,280
thank you all for your support of the

2716
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:18,480
show

2717
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:20,960
and for helping us to praise the cash

2718
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:22,770
that keeps the show going friends

2719
01:48:42,070 --> 01:48:32,900
you're watching tracy

2720
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:44,000
cash

2721
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:49,840
[Music]

2722
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:52,800
where'd you guys crazy guys crazy cash

2723
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,719
thank you for your kindness

2724
01:48:59,970 --> 01:48:57,040
thank you for your generosity

2725
01:49:06,390 --> 01:48:59,980
crazy cash crazy cash raise the cash

2726
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:09,030
so there we have it oh lord ludicrous

2727
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:11,199
plaid with another one

2728
01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:13,360
kind and generous dollar 99 super chat

2729
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:15,760
says great show tonight thank you lord

2730
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,480
ludicrous platt for your continuing uh

2731
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,320
support of the show long time show

2732
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:22,639
supporter lord ludacris platt thank you

2733
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,270
wild ascension the mothership with 1.99

2734
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:32,800
super chat says what's your most

2735
01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:36,239
compelling evidence of alien life

2736
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:37,599
um

2737
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:40,639
boy i'd have to think about that uh

2738
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,040
you know there have been some debate

2739
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:45,840
whether uh microbial alien life was

2740
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:48,560
found on mars a long time ago but

2741
01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:50,480
there's some debate about the tests the

2742
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:52,080
veracity of the test but there's at

2743
01:49:55,430 --> 01:49:53,840
least one scientist connected to nasa

2744
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:55,440
who is absolutely convinced that those

2745
01:50:00,390 --> 01:49:57,599
tests were accurate and that there is

2746
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:00,400
microbial life at least on mars and if

2747
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:02,320
that's the case that would mean that

2748
01:50:06,070 --> 01:50:04,320
life is possible on other planetary

2749
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:06,080
bodies

2750
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:07,679
but the

2751
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:10,639
i suppose the absence of evidence is a

2752
01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:13,280
bit concerning to me

2753
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:20,470
when you think about the vastness of the

2754
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,400
universe

2755
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:24,639
and how efficient nature is at certain

2756
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:25,920
things

2757
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:28,000
i would think that

2758
01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:30,320
if we are the only

2759
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:33,520
planet with life especially uh

2760
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:35,840
you know advanced life and intelligent

2761
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:36,800
life

2762
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:39,840
it would be a tremendous waste of space

2763
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:42,080
to have all of those galaxies all of

2764
01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:44,719
those planets all of those suns

2765
01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:47,199
millions billions of planetary systems

2766
01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:50,880
besides our own and we be the only

2767
01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:53,199
planet capable of supporting life

2768
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:56,400
especially complex or intelligent life

2769
01:51:01,270 --> 01:50:58,800
now i know that's not evidence

2770
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:01,280
i suppose the other evidence of

2771
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,280
the possibility of life on other planets

2772
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:05,280
that i look to is

2773
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:08,320
if you look into exobiology

2774
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:09,760
there are some

2775
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:12,960
organisms that can that are alive and

2776
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:15,599
they can operate at extreme cold

2777
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:17,199
temperatures or extremely hot

2778
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:20,320
temperatures they find life in volcanoes

2779
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:25,270
they find

2780
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,159
uh life below the surface of the ice in

2781
01:51:31,189 --> 01:51:30,560
antarctica in places you wouldn't expect

2782
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,199
it

2783
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:33,199
i for one hope there's intelligent life

2784
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,199
other places thank you for your kindness

2785
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:37,119
your generosity and your support wild

2786
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:39,280
ascension the mothership

2787
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,520
and uh oh that does remind me

2788
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,440
i'll share it next time wild ascension

2789
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,520
but i saw your corey good bit

2790
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:49,760
and i thought i could steal that um i'll

2791
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:52,159
steal it another time

2792
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,280
thank you for your kindness your

2793
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,280
generosity and your support of this of

2794
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,119
the show much much appreciated any

2795
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:59,119
comments or questions for me please put

2796
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:01,280
them in all capital letters

2797
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:02,400
uh

2798
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,159
and we'll be

2799
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:05,840
um

2800
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,709
while the sentient says i would love for

2801
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,880
us to officially discover microbial life

2802
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:14,719
that's a first good step for us yes it'd

2803
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,159
be the first step at least it would

2804
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,320
prove that

2805
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,560
even simple life

2806
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,080
life

2807
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:24,159
um can

2808
01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:27,119
can come from other planetary bodies

2809
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:29,119
you know if panspermia is correct that

2810
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:30,480
would mean that

2811
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:33,119
organic life forms

2812
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:35,199
were seeded here

2813
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:37,920
uh either by accident or intentionally

2814
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,000
and if that be the case that should mean

2815
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:42,960
that life should be able to be seeded on

2816
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:45,280
other planetary bodies

2817
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,000
i for one hope that i live to see the

2818
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:50,800
discovery of life on other planets i'm

2819
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:52,960
hopeful that this james webb telescope

2820
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:55,440
might shed some more light on that

2821
01:52:58,070 --> 01:52:56,239
um

2822
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:58,080
maybe we'll finally get up off our ass

2823
01:53:02,629 --> 01:52:59,840
and do some deep space missions or at

2824
01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:02,639
least deep space probes to some of the

2825
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:05,280
promising exoplanets that astronomers

2826
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:07,599
are now discovering i

2827
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,920
i lost track of how many exoplanets have

2828
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:11,360
been discovered but there's an awful lot

2829
01:53:16,390 --> 01:53:13,679
of planets that they know about now

2830
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:16,400
and i'm hopeful that some of them

2831
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,599
could contain at least some form of life

2832
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:21,520
whether that life would be like it is

2833
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:23,920
here on earth or completely different

2834
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,320
who knows how evolution would take place

2835
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,480
on another planet where the dials are

2836
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,560
turned differently you know the dials

2837
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,639
here are turned perfectly

2838
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:34,080
to to

2839
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:35,760
sustain life here

2840
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,080
perfect gravity perfect temperature

2841
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,800
distance from the sun light

2842
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:41,840
uh

2843
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,679
you know all of these things just happen

2844
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:45,360
to be

2845
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:46,400
perfect

2846
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:47,760
and life

2847
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,920
developed on earth

2848
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:52,320
maybe on other planets they have life

2849
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:54,560
that is vastly different from us because

2850
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,159
there's different levels of solar

2851
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:57,920
radiation or they're further from the

2852
01:54:03,589 --> 01:54:00,880
sun or closer to the sun or

2853
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:03,599
the gravity is different so life forms

2854
01:54:07,589 --> 01:54:06,560
evolve to be either more dense or less

2855
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:07,599
dense

2856
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,000
depending on the planetary system's

2857
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,920
gravity right

2858
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:13,360
who knows but it's a great thing to

2859
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:14,560
think about

2860
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:15,440
um

2861
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,000
i i recall a quote

2862
01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:20,400
and i'm not sure who said it

2863
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:22,480
but the quote is there are just two

2864
01:54:26,950 --> 01:54:25,280
possibilities either we are alone

2865
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:26,960
in the universe

2866
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:28,239
or

2867
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:30,239
the universe is filled with other

2868
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:32,080
intelligent life forms and both

2869
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:35,520
possibilities are equally terrifying

2870
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:37,040
i believe that

2871
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:39,440
if we find out we're the only ones boy

2872
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,280
that would be uh tremendously

2873
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:44,080
disappointing to many including me

2874
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:45,920
but it might

2875
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:48,239
make us change our perspective as to

2876
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:50,400
just how important

2877
01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:51,920
humanity is

2878
01:54:55,030 --> 01:54:53,199
in the universe

2879
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:55,040
imagine if we are the only intelligent

2880
01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:59,199
life anywhere all over the universe well

2881
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:01,199
then we probably have a responsibility

2882
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:04,000
to protect human life and consciousness

2883
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:05,920
kind of like elon musk says we have to

2884
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:08,560
become at least a two planet system

2885
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,440
because

2886
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:11,040
you know an asteroid could come along

2887
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:14,000
and destroy earth and that would mean

2888
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:15,840
the only intelligent life in the

2889
01:55:21,669 --> 01:55:19,440
universe gets destroyed we

2890
01:55:23,350 --> 01:55:21,679
if we find out we are truly the only

2891
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:23,360
intelligent life form known in the

2892
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:25,360
universe we have a responsibility maybe

2893
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:26,239
to

2894
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,109
amy wc says would volunteer for a space

2895
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:42,960
mission as a test project my job is

2896
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:45,040
getting old yeah

2897
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:46,560
i hear that

2898
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:48,400
right what about that there was a there

2899
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:50,560
was a mars mission planned by a private

2900
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:51,760
company and they were going to send

2901
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:53,840
people on a one-way trip to mars could

2902
01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:55,199
you imagine that you're going to mars

2903
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:57,119
and you'll never see earth again

2904
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:58,560
i didn't think anybody was going to sign

2905
01:56:01,510 --> 01:56:00,000
up for it they had thousands and

2906
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,520
thousands of people trying to sign up

2907
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:02,960
for that but i think that project

2908
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:09,589
so uh i want to thank our guest tonight

2909
01:56:15,229 --> 01:56:11,920
louis cayetano i want to remind you that

2910
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:15,239
you can check out his blog at

2911
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:16,960
ufologyiscorrupt.com i love what he

2912
01:56:21,669 --> 01:56:19,520
named his website and his blog

2913
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:21,679
um i think it's entirely appropriate

2914
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,560
though

2915
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:24,800
you know my opinion may be skewed by the

2916
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:27,040
fact that i spend an awful lot of time

2917
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:29,679
digging in the dirt on these stories

2918
01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:32,480
into these characters in conspiracy land

2919
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:33,599
and more

2920
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:37,280
you know uh i could be

2921
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:38,560
biased

2922
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:45,430
seems to reinforce a lot of my own ideas

2923
01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:46,239
and

2924
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,119
maybe i'm a little too addie or

2925
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:51,119
i lack the focus to put things in

2926
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:52,639
writing you know

2927
01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:54,320
something that i have to work on but i

2928
01:56:59,189 --> 01:56:56,639
admire and respect somebody that has the

2929
01:57:01,669 --> 01:56:59,199
patience the diligence and the passion

2930
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:01,679
to lay it all out in black and white

2931
01:57:06,790 --> 01:57:04,320
with words and links to to research

2932
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:06,800
materials and all of that stuff

2933
01:57:11,109 --> 01:57:09,040
i'm a data guy so i i really enjoy his

2934
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:11,119
website i'm sure he will as well the

2935
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,880
link to it is in the description of the

2936
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:14,639
video we want to thank him and hopefully

2937
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:17,440
he'll become a frequent guest here

2938
01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:19,440
i would like that

2939
01:57:23,830 --> 01:57:21,440
so what can i say folks

2940
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:23,840
uh i came here tonight we did our due

2941
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,440
diligence i'm sorry for the lack of

2942
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:27,760
shows this week we had

2943
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,920
in the last seven days we've had two

2944
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:31,599
guests cancel

2945
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:34,159
um then i gotta do this i had to do this

2946
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:35,920
guest spot and i've just learned that if

2947
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:37,599
i have to do a two-hour show somewhere

2948
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,400
else as a guest i can't do a two-hour

2949
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:42,400
show of my own and

2950
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:44,400
a two-hour guest spot or one or the

2951
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,320
other is going to suffer a little bit i

2952
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:48,080
just don't have that much juice in an

2953
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:50,719
average day right

2954
01:57:54,149 --> 01:57:52,719
so i decided to bail on doing a show

2955
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,159
yesterday

2956
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:56,719
tomorrow there will likely not be a show

2957
01:58:02,070 --> 01:57:58,880
unless i wake up extremely early there

2958
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,080
won't be uh in fact i am packing my bags

2959
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:04,639
tonight i'm going on the first trip back

2960
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:07,360
to the cabin since uh

2961
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:09,440
geez since right

2962
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:11,840
probably before christmas

2963
01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:13,199
unfortunately

2964
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:14,639
i don't have four wheel drive in my

2965
01:58:18,390 --> 01:58:17,599
vehicle and the dirt road to the cabin

2966
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:18,400
is

2967
01:58:23,350 --> 01:58:22,000
was completely hazardous and probably

2968
01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:23,360
impassable

2969
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:26,639
um from the main road it's about a mile

2970
01:58:30,629 --> 01:58:28,800
up the dirt road to my cabin from the

2971
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:30,639
main road now the main road is always

2972
01:58:33,669 --> 01:58:31,920
plowed and

2973
01:58:35,830 --> 01:58:33,679
perfect

2974
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:35,840
it's the main road of the town so they

2975
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:38,400
do a great job plowing that thing

2976
01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:41,040
uh however the dirt road to my cabin

2977
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:43,119
it's supposed to be plowed

2978
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:45,119
um they do their best

2979
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:47,280
it's a she it was a sheet of ice

2980
01:58:51,510 --> 01:58:48,960
for the past couple of months and in

2981
01:58:53,270 --> 01:58:51,520
fact i know even people who live there

2982
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,280
year-round that have four-wheel drive

2983
01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:55,119
they were getting stuck on that road the

2984
01:58:58,870 --> 01:58:57,360
dirt road leading to my cabin

2985
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:58,880
and if they're getting stuck with

2986
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:02,000
four-wheel drive i i hazard a guess that

2987
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:03,679
i would get stuck without four-wheel

2988
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:06,320
drive now i maybe i could have made it

2989
01:59:09,669 --> 01:59:07,520
and then the other thing is that i

2990
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:09,679
thought of is that i could just pull off

2991
01:59:13,030 --> 01:59:11,679
the main road and then sled the mile

2992
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:13,040
into the cabin

2993
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:14,080
but

2994
01:59:19,030 --> 01:59:17,040
i decided to just

2995
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:19,040
i don't know i guess [\h__\h] how to go and

2996
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:21,920
that and it's been zero there it has

2997
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:25,199
been zero at the cabin or even below

2998
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:28,400
zero a few times for several months

2999
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:29,360
and

3000
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:30,960
one of the things i've learned is that

3001
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:33,280
when it's that that cold when it's zero

3002
01:59:38,070 --> 01:59:35,520
or below at the cabin i don't get much

3003
01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:38,080
done i spend most of my time tending the

3004
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:40,400
fire and trying to warm up the cabin and

3005
01:59:43,430 --> 01:59:42,400
not freeze to death it's not very

3006
01:59:45,669 --> 01:59:43,440
comfortable

3007
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:45,679
i mean it is but it isn't you've got to

3008
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:47,440
spend an inordinate amount of time

3009
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:49,199
stoking the fire getting the firewood

3010
01:59:53,750 --> 01:59:51,440
from outside to inside and keeping the

3011
01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:53,760
fire going and when it's that cold you

3012
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:56,080
really have to keep that wood stove it's

3013
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:58,080
it's probably slightly smaller than the

3014
02:00:01,589 --> 01:59:59,760
cabin really needs to heat the whole

3015
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:01,599
cabin so i got to keep that thing

3016
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,280
blazing the whole time i'm there when

3017
02:00:07,589 --> 02:00:04,960
it's that that cold

3018
02:00:10,149 --> 02:00:07,599
and the other issue is

3019
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:10,159
you know i have a a pretty newer car but

3020
02:00:13,830 --> 02:00:12,639
it still makes me nervous if it it isn't

3021
02:00:16,229 --> 02:00:13,840
going to start

3022
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:16,239
in zero degree temperatures or when it's

3023
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:18,800
10 below is the car going to start

3024
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:21,440
um and you know because of my situation

3025
02:00:24,870 --> 02:00:22,800
taking care of my children during the

3026
02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:24,880
week i can't go there for the weekend

3027
02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:26,880
and then get stuck

3028
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,880
and and be stranded there

3029
02:00:33,109 --> 02:00:30,480
until the temperatures come up in the

3030
02:00:34,790 --> 02:00:33,119
car you know just a lot of anxiety about

3031
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:34,800
going to the cabin but i'm happy to say

3032
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:35,679
that

3033
02:00:40,950 --> 02:00:37,920
this weekend looks beautiful it's going

3034
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:40,960
to be 45 there on saturday

3035
02:00:44,310 --> 02:00:43,199
it's going to be a low of 15 tomorrow

3036
02:00:46,550 --> 02:00:44,320
night but i'm

3037
02:00:48,070 --> 02:00:46,560
i'm told that the road is passable now

3038
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:48,080
it's a little muddy

3039
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,920
things are melting off there i should be

3040
02:00:55,350 --> 02:00:52,080
able to get there and get back in

3041
02:01:01,030 --> 02:00:55,360
without much hassle and uh

3042
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:03,350
amy wc i'm sorry to hear that i'd love

3043
02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:05,920
you to send me pictures of your cabin

3044
02:01:10,070 --> 02:01:08,320
uh i call that cabin porn when somebody

3045
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:10,080
sends me pictures of cabins it's one of

3046
02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:11,760
my favorite things you can email me at

3047
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:13,840
truthseekershow.gmail.com

3048
02:01:18,790 --> 02:01:15,920
i'd love to see a picture of your cabin

3049
02:01:20,790 --> 02:01:18,800
amy wc says our cabin is two stories and

3050
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,800
my husband logged and saw the beams

3051
02:01:24,950 --> 02:01:23,040
himself he died a long time ago

3052
02:01:26,790 --> 02:01:24,960
well i'm sorry to hear that your husband

3053
02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:26,800
passed away but

3054
02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:29,280
i'm sure that wherever he is he's happy

3055
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:31,760
to know that you have a nice long cabin

3056
02:01:35,990 --> 02:01:34,000
home that he built for you

3057
02:01:38,310 --> 02:01:36,000
uh it's kind of like the gift that keeps

3058
02:01:40,550 --> 02:01:38,320
on giving from him right i'd love to see

3059
02:01:43,030 --> 02:01:40,560
yours right

3060
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:43,040
i i don't have the energy or the

3061
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:44,800
passion to build a two-story cabin

3062
02:01:55,589 --> 02:01:53,830
the success says make sure you get a

3063
02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:55,599
better and more amp output than required

3064
02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:58,480
by factory standards a few 100 cranking

3065
02:02:03,910 --> 02:02:01,440
amps more yeah one time sixth sense my

3066
02:02:05,030 --> 02:02:03,920
car wouldn't start the battery just

3067
02:02:06,550 --> 02:02:05,040
froze

3068
02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:06,560
and i was able to

3069
02:02:09,910 --> 02:02:09,040
just put the battery on a charger

3070
02:02:10,950 --> 02:02:09,920
and

3071
02:02:18,229 --> 02:02:10,960
uh

3072
02:02:19,750 --> 02:02:18,239
and one other time it was so cold it was

3073
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:19,760
negative 20.

3074
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:22,639
and i was running out of firewood and i

3075
02:02:26,950 --> 02:02:25,199
had no propane or backup heating source

3076
02:02:30,229 --> 02:02:26,960
at that point and the car would not

3077
02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:30,239
start for hours i tried everything um

3078
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:32,320
luckily i have triple a so i called them

3079
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:34,560
and a really kind tow truck driver came

3080
02:02:38,950 --> 02:02:36,560
out and he identified the problem right

3081
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:38,960
away my fuel pump had frozen

3082
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:40,800
and so

3083
02:02:44,709 --> 02:02:43,040
the vehicle had spark but had no fuel

3084
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:44,719
because the fuel pump wasn't pumping the

3085
02:02:50,149 --> 02:02:47,520
fuel so he went under the car and

3086
02:02:52,070 --> 02:02:50,159
hammered on the thing until it started

3087
02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:52,080
up i've never been so happy to hear a

3088
02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:54,320
car start in my entire life because i

3089
02:02:58,310 --> 02:02:56,400
was down to like

3090
02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:58,320
an hour's worth of firewood there was

3091
02:03:01,750 --> 02:02:59,440
four or five

3092
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:01,760
pieces of wood left in there it was

3093
02:03:07,189 --> 02:03:05,520
freezing 20 negative 20 outside luckily

3094
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:07,199
i was able to get the car started with

3095
02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:09,599
his help and i got the hell out of there

3096
02:03:12,550 --> 02:03:10,880
and that's one of the things that makes

3097
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:12,560
me nervous about going there when it's

3098
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:14,880
that that freezing cold

3099
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:16,960
you know i'm thinking about

3100
02:03:20,229 --> 02:03:18,000
um

3101
02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:20,239
in the future sometime maybe in the next

3102
02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:21,440
two years

3103
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:23,119
i will upgrade to

3104
02:03:26,830 --> 02:03:24,960
number one a four wheel drive vehicle

3105
02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:26,840
and number two a car with a little bit

3106
02:03:31,750 --> 02:03:29,920
more a vehicle that's a little more well

3107
02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:31,760
suited for freezing cold temperatures so

3108
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:33,040
that i have

3109
02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:35,119
you know i i'd like to have a vehicle

3110
02:03:39,189 --> 02:03:37,119
that i have 100 confidence is going to

3111
02:03:40,709 --> 02:03:39,199
start get me there and get me back i

3112
02:03:42,950 --> 02:03:40,719
can't leave my wife stranded with two

3113
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:42,960
children having to go to work and nobody

3114
02:03:46,629 --> 02:03:45,520
to watch the children and you know

3115
02:03:48,709 --> 02:03:46,639
so

3116
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:48,719
i'm excited i'm gonna be packing up my

3117
02:03:53,189 --> 02:03:50,639
junk tonight i've got all kinds of new

3118
02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:53,199
stuff for the cabin to take there

3119
02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:54,960
you know i had some christmas presents

3120
02:03:59,510 --> 02:03:57,119
that were people know i love that cabin

3121
02:04:02,069 --> 02:03:59,520
and and uh gave me some

3122
02:04:04,629 --> 02:04:02,079
cabin stuff for christmas

3123
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:04,639
i have a new first aid kit an actual

3124
02:04:07,510 --> 02:04:06,400
it's better than a first aid kit it's a

3125
02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:07,520
whole

3126
02:04:11,189 --> 02:04:10,320
medical survival kit it's this big jump

3127
02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:11,199
bag

3128
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:14,560
and it's got everything if you have to

3129
02:04:17,750 --> 02:04:15,599
perform

3130
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:17,760
surgery on somebody there's surgical

3131
02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:22,960
implements first aid band-aids bandages

3132
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:26,000
all that stuff like uh it's it's it's a

3133
02:04:31,189 --> 02:04:28,639
really crazy uh medical kit

3134
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:31,199
for emergency situations i'm taking that

3135
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:34,000
i have some new tools i have uh

3136
02:04:38,310 --> 02:04:36,320
some other cabin related gear that i've

3137
02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:38,320
gotten that i'm you know going to be

3138
02:04:42,470 --> 02:04:40,320
trucking up there a little bit

3139
02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:42,480
apprehensive though because i hate that

3140
02:04:45,830 --> 02:04:44,639
first trip there when i haven't been

3141
02:04:47,990 --> 02:04:45,840
there in a while

3142
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:48,000
because over a few months i completely

3143
02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:50,800
forget what's at the cabin and what's

3144
02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:53,199
not so i i got to go there

3145
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:55,520
sort of overload it with stuff and just

3146
02:04:59,990 --> 02:04:57,760
stupid stuff like you know coffee or tea

3147
02:05:01,270 --> 02:05:00,000
bags or

3148
02:05:03,350 --> 02:05:01,280
you know

3149
02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:03,360
all the essentials you'll need for the

3150
02:05:07,430 --> 02:05:05,199
weekend paper towels toilet paper i

3151
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:07,440
don't remember what's there what's not

3152
02:05:11,830 --> 02:05:09,760
so basically i'm gonna go there with a

3153
02:05:13,669 --> 02:05:11,840
whole car load of crap to resupply the

3154
02:05:15,990 --> 02:05:13,679
cabin whether it needs it or not but the

3155
02:05:19,109 --> 02:05:16,000
good news is we'll use that stuff over

3156
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:19,119
the next whatever period of time so

3157
02:05:22,149 --> 02:05:20,400
um

3158
02:05:24,069 --> 02:05:22,159
yeah operation shutdown says i hope you

3159
02:05:26,709 --> 02:05:24,079
won't have to perform surgery on anyone

3160
02:05:28,790 --> 02:05:26,719
up there but if i do i have a whole

3161
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:28,800
surgical kit i couldn't believe this a

3162
02:05:31,030 --> 02:05:30,000
friend of mine gave it to me for

3163
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:31,040
christmas

3164
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:33,280
uh it's brand new and it's it's uh

3165
02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:34,480
better than a

3166
02:05:40,069 --> 02:05:38,000
regular it's basically a a first aid kit

3167
02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:40,079
on steroids but then it's got a surgical

3168
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,119
kit with it with with scalpels and all

3169
02:05:46,149 --> 02:05:45,040
kinds of stuff i don't even know how to

3170
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:46,159
use but

3171
02:05:50,950 --> 02:05:48,320
i i don't know it's good for survival

3172
02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:50,960
purposes and [\h__\h] it's a fan apocalypse

3173
02:05:54,069 --> 02:05:52,800
cabin by the way should have all the

3174
02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:54,079
stuff so

3175
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:56,159
and i got a new huge flashlight that's

3176
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:57,679
like one of those big heavy cop

3177
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:59,440
flashlights and

3178
02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:01,119
um

3179
02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:03,679
hulk it's i've got this other survival

3180
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:05,679
kit that has uh

3181
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:08,719
you know like thermal blankets and uh

3182
02:06:13,109 --> 02:06:10,560
this is a really nice

3183
02:06:14,629 --> 02:06:13,119
compass and just

3184
02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:14,639
you know over the last couple of months

3185
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,280
we've had a christmas and then

3186
02:06:21,510 --> 02:06:19,040
valentine's day my wife gave me some

3187
02:06:24,069 --> 02:06:21,520
other stuff for the cabin so i got a big

3188
02:06:26,229 --> 02:06:24,079
load of crap to take off

3189
02:06:27,910 --> 02:06:26,239
stuff i got a big load of stuff to take

3190
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:27,920
up there right

3191
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:28,719
um

3192
02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:31,040
and i've decided that i'm not doing any

3193
02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:32,639
i have no goal

3194
02:06:36,550 --> 02:06:34,239
for going to the cabin this weekend

3195
02:06:38,229 --> 02:06:36,560
other than one

3196
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:38,239
i am very close to finishing the

3197
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:40,079
bathroom in the cabin

3198
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:42,560
and the sun room in the cabin

3199
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:45,199
but i'm sure that i'm going to need a

3200
02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:46,960
certain amount of materials and i just

3201
02:06:51,109 --> 02:06:49,119
don't remember right now but what is it

3202
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:51,119
that i need to go buy at lowe's or home

3203
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:53,599
depot so my only goal for the cabin this

3204
02:06:57,030 --> 02:06:55,679
weekend is going to be

3205
02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:57,040
that

3206
02:07:00,229 --> 02:06:58,239
i'm going to go there and clean the

3207
02:07:01,189 --> 02:07:00,239
whole cabin because it's probably a man

3208
02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:01,199
mess

3209
02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:03,280
um you know while my wife's not there it

3210
02:07:08,870 --> 02:07:05,599
gets it gets me in messy you know pizza

3211
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:08,880
boxes beer cans i don't know

3212
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:11,360
so i'm going to clean the whole cabin

3213
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,480
in case

3214
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,400
my younger son wants to come up with me

3215
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:16,400
for one of these uh

3216
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:18,400
later fall trips

3217
02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:19,840
my wife's a little nervous about him

3218
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:21,760
going there when it's too cold

3219
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,079
you know but uh in a couple more weeks

3220
02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:26,800
maybe a month she'll feel more

3221
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:29,040
okay with him going there

3222
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:30,800
so i'm gonna take him up there for a

3223
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:33,440
weekend maybe both sons i'm not sure

3224
02:07:35,669 --> 02:07:34,480
we'll see

3225
02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:35,679
um

3226
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:37,440
and so i'm gonna clean everything this

3227
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:40,400
weekend and then i'm gonna make a list i

3228
02:07:44,069 --> 02:07:42,480
need to make a list of this is all the

3229
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,079
materials that i need to finish the

3230
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:46,400
bathroom and the new sun room

3231
02:07:50,229 --> 02:07:48,000
and then i'm gonna go next weekend and

3232
02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:50,239
get all the materials where

3233
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:52,880
we're really down to not much money left

3234
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,040
in materials and i can't tell you how

3235
02:07:58,870 --> 02:07:57,199
happy i am you know we've used a lot of

3236
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:58,880
trees and trash but sometimes you need

3237
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:00,960
to buy things and there's a few things

3238
02:08:04,390 --> 02:08:02,960
that i need to buy some

3239
02:08:06,390 --> 02:08:04,400
wood to put in the ceiling in the

3240
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:06,400
bathroom and some wood to finish the

3241
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:08,960
walls off um

3242
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:11,520
i'm gonna get everything that the cabin

3243
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:14,000
needs i need some uh

3244
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:15,360
i don't forget what that's called

3245
02:08:20,550 --> 02:08:17,119
electrical wiring

3246
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:20,560
rj12 maybe is called you know that

3247
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:23,280
spool wire 100 foot you get to wire a

3248
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:26,000
room i need that and some outlets and

3249
02:08:29,109 --> 02:08:27,840
odds and ends nothing too expensive

3250
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:29,119
though which i'm happy about so i'm

3251
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:31,199
gonna go and make a list this weekend of

3252
02:08:35,109 --> 02:08:33,199
the cabin of everything i need to finish

3253
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:35,119
those two rooms and then i'm gonna go

3254
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:36,800
get it because one thing i've learned

3255
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:38,239
about myself is

3256
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:40,800
when it's an hour to the lows and an

3257
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:43,840
hour back from the cabin

3258
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:45,280
sometimes i don't get anything done

3259
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:46,800
because i spend half the day going to

3260
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:48,400
get the stuff and then i'm kind of like

3261
02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:50,880
ah i'll do it tomorrow or whatever but

3262
02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,719
if i have all the stuff all the

3263
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:54,639
materials that i need and it's there i

3264
02:08:58,310 --> 02:08:56,239
get up in the morning throw some

3265
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:58,320
caffeine down my throat and i get going

3266
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:59,119
on

3267
02:09:02,470 --> 02:09:00,800
finishing this thing and i'm determined

3268
02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:02,480
i'm gonna try to finish this cabin this

3269
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:03,440
year

3270
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:05,440
now that may or may not happen i've got

3271
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:06,960
to finish the sun room finish the

3272
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:09,360
bathroom i gotta put a covered porch on

3273
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:11,520
and i may do one more bump out out of

3274
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:13,199
the back for a bedroom for my two

3275
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:14,880
children because

3276
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,239
we could probably use it right so that's

3277
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:20,239
my plans so there won't be a show this

3278
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:22,880
weekend or maybe i i don't know if i got

3279
02:09:27,030 --> 02:09:25,360
nothing to do maybe i'll do a show from

3280
02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:27,040
the cabin for you guys

3281
02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:29,199
always happy to do that share a little

3282
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:31,920
more of my life with you but mostly uh i

3283
02:09:37,669 --> 02:09:33,520
plan on going there

3284
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,679
and uh maybe i'll do some hiking fishing

3285
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:39,360
who knows

3286
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:40,480
uh

3287
02:09:45,109 --> 02:09:42,960
depends on the temperatures as well

3288
02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:45,119
i may just uh take some books with me

3289
02:09:48,709 --> 02:09:46,880
and catch up on my reading that's a

3290
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:48,719
great place to do that

3291
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:50,560
but mostly my goal is to get that

3292
02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:53,280
material list down to the last screw the

3293
02:09:57,510 --> 02:09:55,840
last nail whatever and i'm gonna go get

3294
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:57,520
everything i need to finish those two

3295
02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:59,199
rooms i'm gonna stack it up there and

3296
02:10:01,510 --> 02:10:00,480
i'm going to get those two rooms

3297
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:01,520
finished

3298
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:03,840
well before my wife gets there in the

3299
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:07,119
summer i really want the new sun room uh

3300
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:09,440
to be finished too so we can start

3301
02:10:13,030 --> 02:10:10,960
we're going to start a garden hopefully

3302
02:10:15,189 --> 02:10:13,040
this year or at the very least we're

3303
02:10:17,990 --> 02:10:15,199
going to have an indoor garden right in

3304
02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,000
the sun room greenhouse

3305
02:10:22,149 --> 02:10:19,920
on the on the right of

3306
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:22,159
the new addition we'll have a greenhouse

3307
02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:23,520
full of i don't know peppers and

3308
02:10:26,310 --> 02:10:25,280
tomatoes and whatever else we can grow

3309
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:26,320
in there

3310
02:10:29,990 --> 02:10:28,560
um one of the issues with gardening is

3311
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:30,000
there's so many animals there that you

3312
02:10:34,229 --> 02:10:32,079
gotta fence off a garden with like eight

3313
02:10:36,069 --> 02:10:34,239
foot high fences otherwise the deer get

3314
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:36,079
in the rabbits the

3315
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:38,320
the chipmunks the squirrels and they eat

3316
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:41,280
everything especially the deer and bears

3317
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:42,719
as well

3318
02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:44,560
but if it's inside a building they're

3319
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:46,800
gonna leave it alone so we're not even

3320
02:10:51,109 --> 02:10:48,880
know it's there

3321
02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:51,119
so i gotta get those things done i'm off

3322
02:10:54,629 --> 02:10:52,480
to the cabin

3323
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:54,639
uh i consider this week was a pretty

3324
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:57,280
light week for the show and i apologize

3325
02:11:02,470 --> 02:10:59,360
for that lots of stuff going on that's

3326
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:02,480
sort of uh impeding our progress i know

3327
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:04,320
many of you would like to see us go back

3328
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:07,280
to five shows a week we may do that um

3329
02:11:10,629 --> 02:11:09,280
i'm sort of collecting material for

3330
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:10,639
different shows

3331
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:12,960
we'll see what happens next week i'm

3332
02:11:17,189 --> 02:11:15,040
sure i'm gonna feel rested and recharged

3333
02:11:19,030 --> 02:11:17,199
and ready to fight the good fight again

3334
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:19,040
next week

3335
02:11:22,790 --> 02:11:20,239
so

3336
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:22,800
that's what i got for you for tonight

3337
02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:27,350
next week

3338
02:11:31,189 --> 02:11:29,119
i believe that we have an interview with

3339
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:31,199
jason quit about his new book we're also

3340
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:33,440
going to have terry joyce from not my

3341
02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:34,639
rabbit hole we're going to be talking

3342
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:37,199
about that super soldier documentary

3343
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:39,280
okie from uki's weird stories how he

3344
02:11:43,669 --> 02:11:40,480
punks

3345
02:11:45,430 --> 02:11:43,679
james caspal super soldier channel

3346
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:45,440
great story

3347
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:47,679
so that's what i got for you folks

3348
02:11:53,109 --> 02:11:49,360
i want to thank my guests once again for

3349
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:53,119
tonight uh who came here and um really

3350
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:55,679
helped uh bring some of these bob lazar

3351
02:12:02,030 --> 02:11:58,320
stories more to the forefront

3352
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:02,040
uh and again his website is ufology is

3353
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:05,440
corrupt.com go visit him and of course

3354
02:12:09,189 --> 02:12:07,520
uh subscribe to his youtube channel the

3355
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:09,199
channel link is in the description of

3356
02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:10,480
this video

3357
02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:12,320
please support him and the excellent

3358
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:14,079
work that he is doing as you have

3359
02:12:17,350 --> 02:12:16,400
supported me and the work that we do

3360
02:12:19,430 --> 02:12:17,360
here

3361
02:12:22,149 --> 02:12:19,440
i think it's important

3362
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:22,159
that we view this phenomenon from all

3363
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:25,360
sides including a skeptical one

3364
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:26,800
so

3365
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:28,159
oh and i want to thank each and every

3366
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:30,320
one of you kind and generous benefactors

3367
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:31,920
the patreon supporters the paypal

3368
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:34,639
donators the super chatters the cash app

3369
02:12:38,149 --> 02:12:36,079
money senders

3370
02:12:39,669 --> 02:12:38,159
you guys keep the show going

3371
02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:39,679
always happy when there's an audience

3372
02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:41,360
tonight i came here and we had a great

3373
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:44,000
one thank you for being a part of mine

3374
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:46,239
so that's what i got for you tonight

3375
02:12:50,310 --> 02:12:48,079
friends until next time my name is

3376
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:50,320
stephen campion good night and god bless

3377
02:12:54,290 --> 02:13:07,589
[Music]

3378
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:09,610
so

3379
02:13:38,260 --> 02:13:35,920
[Music]

3380
02:14:10,260 --> 02:13:38,270
so

3381
02:14:14,620 --> 02:14:13,260
[Music]

3382
02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:14,630
[Applause]

3383
02:14:54,780 --> 02:14:33,620
so